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the planets drop the Masters almost

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this clearly made me something there

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beyond the realm of man

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you think you know the less you really

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all right people we know the past is

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paved with high trickery from the

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shadowy elite and when we really examine

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the history and the legal framework of

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America you can learn a lot about how a

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nation that was once positioned to be a

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haven of freedom and independence was

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slowly sucked back into the clutches of

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what many called the Triple Crown

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controllers and that freedom and

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independence was replaced by a system of

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never-ending certificates licenses and

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identification more appropriate for

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processing cattle instituted by a

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tyrannical Trojan horse federal

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government that was never supposed to be

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the all-encompassing iron-fisted

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authority it is today and maybe we share

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some responsibility in that exchanging

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our freedoms for a constant need to ask

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permission allowing ourselves to be

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regulated numbered and reduced to

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property of the state without much of a

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second thought well today's guest Corey

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I band Todd McGreevy have been working

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together to unravel the legalese and

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untangle the tyranny surrounding this

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subject for several years now having hit

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it off at the constitutional sheriff and

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Peace Officers Association national

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convention in 2012 they formed the show

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Common Sense revisited which has now

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become agenda 31 which you can hear at

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agenda 31 org as well as following the

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no agenda show at the no agenda stream

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com there they break down a lot of what

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we're going to talk about today as well

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as follow Corey's personal journey

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putting much of what he's learned about

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these subjects into practice as he

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personally fights the good fight against

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the agents of the system here in

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California do you guys know a hell of a

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lot more about this than me Corey and

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Todd welcome to the higher side thanks

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Greg thank you great to be on Craig

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of course thanks so much for being here

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guys you know I tried to navigate that

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intro without saying anything too

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inaccurate or contradictory because this

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stuff can be quite technical when you

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get into the details and I think I've

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covered some subjects like this in the

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past with guests like Jordan Maxwell and

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Kate of Gaia but still this is a little

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different and you both made it very

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clear to me that we're not talking about

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the sovereign citizens stuff here in

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this case we're talking about being a

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citizen of one of the several states and

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I think we should probably kick this off

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by explaining that difference and why

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it's so valuable and important to you

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guys take it away Chloe yeah a state

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citizen is what I refer to the term

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citizen that references our

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four of the constitution or or the term

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citizen as it's used in article four a

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sovereign citizen first off that term is

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just contradictory it's like calling

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somebody a king subject it just is it's

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contradictory in terms in itself but the

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real error in that whole kind of theory

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of sovereign citizenship is in my

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opinion that there's no legal mechanism

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to bind the government to offer you any

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protections if you're claiming some

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status that's outside of the

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Constitution mhm and the idea of being a

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state citizen is what the framers put

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the whole Constitution together with

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that whole idea that there are citizens

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of the several states and through

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history and just a myriad of small

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changes you know kind of like a frog in

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a pot just slowly turning up the heat

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over a hundred and twenty years of the

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government constantly pushing people

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towards a new type of citizenship that

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was never even contemplated by the

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framers and that's a national

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citizenship guaranteed by the 14th

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amendment the idea is if you're a 14th

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amendment citizen that that really is

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the problem you don't have any real

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standing to make the government really

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do much of anything and when comparing

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what was the status of citizens of the

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several states compared to what the

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status is of a US citizen I find it much

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more advantageous to restrain government

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by maintaining state citizenship yeah

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federal citizenship is the problem I

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used to share with friends and family

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I've never voted for a Democrat a

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Republican president in my life

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I voted in many elections or I should

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say the birth record has voted in many

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elections I've not been part of the

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problem you people are part of the

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problem keep you know electing these

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these puppets

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I now have shifted to that's all just a

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huge distraction that the election means

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nothing at the federal level it's just a

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total just waste of our time

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whereas what the problem is with regards

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to how the ills of our society manifests

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themselves is because we are US citizens

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or federal cities

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and that means that you have elected as

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a raising your hands when you when you

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get the birth record is assigned to you

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when you go to public school when you

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sign up for a student loan when you get

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a driver's license when you register to

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vote all of these applications are

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requiring you to raise your hand and say

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I am a US citizen and that raising of

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the hand consenting to that federal

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status you're leaving behind your

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article for state citizen status and

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you're saying I'm going to step over

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here and move myself into federal hood

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and in that situation you have you have

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abdicated your ability to have the Bill

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of Rights enforced and and that's what

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we primarily deal with and Cory the

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reason I'm so enamored of what Cory's

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been doing is that he's walking the talk

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in California which is one of the

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largest leviathan's in the world the

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state of California and for Cory to be

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able to achieve what he's done in

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California speaks just massive volumes

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that he's on to something

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something very powerful and important

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and that's why I work with Cory so much

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is because I want to see him succeed

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well said yeah it is an interesting saga

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we'll definitely get into it one more

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thing about the sovereign citizen thing

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Todd I think you actually were the one

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who shared with me a little interview

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where it's becoming apparent that law

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enforcement are getting very wise and

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also very hostile towards people

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invoking what they hear from these

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sovereign citizens speakers out there

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right absolutely it was probably two two

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and a half years ago Sheriff chief ABAB

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powder to PA UD e RT powdered in West

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Memphis Arkansas just on other side of

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Tennessee came to Scott County Iowa to

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give a training session to for law

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enforcement about the dangers of

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sovereign citizens and I went to that

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event it was it was pretty fascinating

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actually and I had seen chief powder on

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60 minutes he was featured because his

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son was murdered

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roadside at a road stop ma some

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so-called sovereign citizens and if you

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look into that there's a whole story

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thread there I mean the the video

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doesn't really show him getting killed

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but I'm sure he died but you know

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whether or not who shot him I'm not sure

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even chief powder verbally acknowledged

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that to me when I spoke to him when he

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here in Scott County and he the Southern

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Poverty Law Center it'll pretty much

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preyed upon that the powdered families

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tragedy and recruited him as a

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spokesperson for training of law

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enforcement of the dangers of sovereign

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citizens and and I went to this event

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and I do you really want to go into this

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because it's I mean it's not you can I

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know you can cut this if you want it's

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it's up to you but but sure give us the

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cliff notes yes well I'll try and give

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you the cliff notes cuz it's fascinating

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I sit down in in the in the room and of

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course I'm waiting to be escorted out

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I'm surrounded by FBI agents see you

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know all kinds of people TSA Sheriff

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police all hundred fifty people from all

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over the Midwest here for this guy and

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there's a booklet on the table and in

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the booklet it has a page of the most

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dangerous organizations and on that it

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listed that we the people foundation man

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I'm very familiar with me the people on

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nation I worked with them closely in

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2009 four hundred Schultz named Bob

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Schultz as a dangerous individual so at

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the break none of the cops wanted to

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talk to powder and he came right up to

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me and talked to me and we spoke about

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that and I said why do you have these

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guys listed as dangerous he's like yeah

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I know that's what the Southern Poverty

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Law Center wanted to do it you know so

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anyway the reason I didn't bring all

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this up is that powder was sharing with

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everybody there that you know the the

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people that are available trying to say

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that the you have no authority these are

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dangerous people when I tried to share

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with him was those of us who were

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studying the Constitution are not

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necessarily all dangerous and he goes I

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agree with you the federal government's

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completely out of control and so forth

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anyway I don't know where I went with

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that sorry no it's okay but yeah that's

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an interesting side note to this guy's

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crusade against sovereign citizens is

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that perhaps there was manipulation

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emotional manipulation on the part of

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the death of his son to send him off on

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this crusade I mean you can't be sure

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but you do have to question everything

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manipulation can exist any step of the

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way whether or not there was

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manipulation clearly they got a crusader

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for their campaign I also want to ask

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you about the name of your show agenda

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31 where'd you get that name obviously

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it is a play off of agenda 21 for those

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who know that right correct it's also a

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nod to

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3,100 plus counties that are in the

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country and that's one of the things I

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really like Todd came up with this is

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one of the things that I think is really

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important to the show and and to the

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success of being able to adopt a legal

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strategy of employing state citizenship

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is recognizing the significant power in

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the original form of government that was

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at the local level and that's something

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that Todd and I both you know really

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find incredibly important to get into

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the psyche of people to understand how

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the system actually functions and that

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that helps you identify the difference

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between the federal and state

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citizenship and jurisdictions right

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people age enough locally is the

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challenge they're they're filled with

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distractions of the national elections

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and originally when we started agenda 31

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we wanted to have the photos guide or

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the Zagat guide to Liberty mm-hmm

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meeting like wouldn't it be great if you

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could come to a website and type in like

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well I want to see the what's the freest

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county in America and what are the

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criteria well it could be everything

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from do they fluoridate the water supply

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do you get to know who your grand jury

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is in that County - are you taxed to

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collect your rain water in that county

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huh you know what's the status of

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freedom in that county and we had kind

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of envisioned this this concept of being

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able to access a database of 30 100 plus

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counties across America so we've shifted

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it into we hope to have an article for

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state citizen in each and every county

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across America that would be 30 100 plus

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state citizens and and and that would be

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a starting point for for something

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significant right on this kind of ties

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into that but I've heard you guys say on

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your show that a fundamental question

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behind a Jena Genda 31 is how do you

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identify yourself or am i letting the

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government define me as they see fit and

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I don't think this crosses the minds of

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most Americans very often at all but

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elaborate on why these are important

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questions for people to reflect on using

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a birth record which is kind of the

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fundamental document to every engagement

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you have with government on a personal

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level

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when you get your driver's license

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before you can get a driver's license

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you have to go down to the county

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recorders office and get a certified

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copy of a birth record and in California

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that birth record the original that has

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your mom's wedding signature on it

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that's up at the Department of Public

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Health in Sacramento and so you're

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getting a certified copy of their

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property which is a person who is

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protected under the 14th amendment but

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the nature of that person if you look at

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it very carefully and I encourage

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everybody get a copy of your birth

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certificate out and look at it really

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closely look at the title that they gave

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your mom on mine it says it's signature

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of informant and look up the definition

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of what informant means and my

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interpretation of the birth record is

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it's created in such a way that it will

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guarantee you Fourteenth Amendment

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rights if you want to call them rights

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but it guarantees you access to

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citizenship under the Fourteenth

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Amendment while simultaneously

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preventing you from citizenship in the

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several states and that's because the

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laws in the several states are very

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different from what we're familiar with

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today there's nobody alive today that

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can recollect what it was like to live

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under a state that isn't it that is a

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operates as a Republican form of

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government and operates under common law

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so a lot of the things that we see today

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that we might think well that's no big

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deal who cares if on the birth record if

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my mom used for her maiden name rather

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than my dad's family name well in these

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common law states which are the several

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states that that's a very important

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subject we also talked about the lowest

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risk highest reward that's one of our

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themes and we asked people to ask

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themselves you know what risk are you

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wanted to take for what reward and we

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assert that if you're concerned about

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your freedoms if you're concerned about

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the overreach of the of the tyrannical

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government whether it's at the federal

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level or down to tier two your county or

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state level which are all subsidiaries

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of the feds by the way if you're

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concerned about that well rather than

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just complain about it do something and

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we assert that the first step is to

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identify yourself

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on your own terms not on the government

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terms and that simply means making your

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own common-law ID and that was Cory's

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term he called it a common ID we're

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shifting towards calling in an article

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for state citizen ID but that is a

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effort to say this is who I am and I am

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asserting or average that I am a state

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citizen as of the year that this state

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entered the Union or when the

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Constitution was first formed for that

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state and whether it's in Tennessee or

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you know Georgia or California or

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Kentucky wherever it might be it means

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you need to go look up the history of

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the state you live in

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means you had to do a little work that

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should be pretty low risk looking

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history of your state your state

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Constitution when it was Oh turns out

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that there were five constitutional

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conventions before the current one was

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was ratified that there but the state is

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claiming that they're operating under

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when there's all that swipe in this cat

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each state's gonna have its own history

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so we don't propose to know every

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state's history we can only deal with

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where we live go make your own common ID

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we say we are domiciled in calories case

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California 18-49 in my case Iowa 1846

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that's our assertion or a Vermont state

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citizenship that we are operating under

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that rule of law where that was the

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Constitution that was passed when the

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state was entered into the Union by that

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compact

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of states which make up the federal

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government and and you can't make your

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own commonly ID then you're really just

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kind of just you know pissin in the wind

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yeah yeah my my common-law ID is by far

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the most important document I have out

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of anything that if I were to lose

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everything if my house burned down and

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all the documents went away the very

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first thing I would do is make another

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article for citizen ID for myself that

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and that is the basis of everything as

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far as who I am and what the status is

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that Todd's used his to travel on

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aircraft you know get through TSA right

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he's mine to cross the border I have

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used it to enter into federal buildings

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it is I've used it to cash money orders

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at the post office it is a valid

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document that is a highly important

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thing

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that really if you're buying it from

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somebody else

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you know there's a lot of people that

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put websites up that say they'll sell

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you there's another guy out there who is

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claiming he's selling common Leidy's if

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somebody else is creating the ID for you

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then in my opinion it's worthless

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because you it's something that you have

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to claim yourself and if you have

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somebody else make it for you and you

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don't understand why it's created the

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way it is based on your own research or

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your own knowledge then you're gonna

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have a hard time defending it right and

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the name of the game is I say I am the

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person who's identified on my article

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for citizenship ID and I go about when

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I'm in a contest with the government

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defending that that's who I am their job

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is to get me to say or put me in a

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position where I am their property which

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is the birth record and that's why it's

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so important to have that common law ID

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and it's not either/or you can actually

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have both but to achieve any type of

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restriction on the government it's only

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an article for citizens so somebody

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could kind of make their own it's fun

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and it's actually really kind of neat

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you can make your own ID keep your

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driver's license and kind of learn how

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this works make your own ID and go to

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the post office purchase a money order

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and then send it to somebody else who

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has a similar ID we talked about using

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the authority of the 37th Congress in

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doing this example where you can mail a

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letter for two cents if it's local or

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three cents if it's out-of-town and the

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person on the other end they could take

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that money order and take it to the post

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office and cash it with a common law ID

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and now you've just completed a circle

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of a very primitive form of common law

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banking that's available to us in the

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country and what what's interesting is I

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think Bernie Sanders has mentioned that

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we should be able to do additional

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banking at the post office recently hmm

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yeah this stuff is really fascinating

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because it's I guess to clarify we're

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talking about two parallel governments

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and over the years it seems like we've

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just been kind of slowly led to believe

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that there's only one and it's the

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federal government and that's

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the rule of law and you're under their

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thumb and don't even think about

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anything else but I guess some of the

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old forms of government that were state

483
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specific are actually still in place

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just kind of more covert and hidden is

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that kind of the gist here yeah that

486
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that's exactly it that this jurisdiction

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exists it's an entire playing field and

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that's the playing field that the

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framers of the country originally

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intended all the citizens to be when

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they created Washington DC after the

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mutiny of the Pennsylvania line which is

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just a fascinating story that's how we

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ended up with a Washington DC they never

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intended for Washington DC to have

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citizens and if you were to tell the

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framers today that the entire country

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had is basically a US citizen I think

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they would find it how in the world were

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they able to do that because in the

501
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original there was such a separation

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between citizens of a state and the

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federal government but the two

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governments as you mentioned there's one

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government that's kind of hidden well

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there's always been two parallel

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governments in every state as soon as a

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state entered the Union then within the

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borders of that state immediately began

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to operate the jurisdiction and

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authority of the federal government so

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things like the authority to coin money

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that no longer is something that the

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state could do once it joined the Union

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and that was a jurisdiction that is

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granted to the federal government and of

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course in California right up near San

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Francisco there was a I'm not sure if

519
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they still operate but there was a mint

520
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that I have a few coins that were minted

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from that mint when California was

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operating off its 1849 Constitution but

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if you were a citizen and you began to

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counterfeit money for any reason that

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would be federal authority and you could

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absolutely be prosecuted by the feds and

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those two governments operated in your

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state but at the time you know when

529
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we're talking about when the state first

530
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entered the Union it was very easy to

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tell the difference between somebody who

532
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was a federal authority and somebody who

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was a state authority and in California

534
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if you're a federal employee of any kind

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you're not allowed to hold state office

536
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raaah that's right in the 18-49

537
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Constitution so the feds which were

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operating right right within your state

539
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you didn't have to worry if the feds had

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their own citizens they were only

541
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employees of the government well after

542
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the 14th amendment that portion of

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government which had always been there

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that portion of government began to have

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citizens of its own and they were from

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Washington DC and then the government

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found it to be very easy over a very

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short period of time after the 14th

549
00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:11,010
amendment to get people to participate

550
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:12,660
in activities that would make them think

551
00:21:17,510 --> 00:21:14,880
that they are altering or adjusting

552
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:17,520
their own state but in reality in my

553
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:19,290
opinion they were just participating in

554
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:20,490
a big big magic show

555
00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:22,770
the magician got the audience to say

556
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:25,380
abracadabra and out comes the rabbit

557
00:21:29,690 --> 00:21:27,690
which is a new constitution here in

558
00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:29,700
California but it had nothing to do with

559
00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:32,310
what the audience you know participating

560
00:21:37,370 --> 00:21:35,340
it was all just a game in my opinion the

561
00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:37,380
federal government doesn't need a vote

562
00:21:41,570 --> 00:21:39,870
to create a constitution the

563
00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:41,580
Constitution that California operates

564
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:44,460
under right now which is the 1879

565
00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:46,890
Constitution is an administrative

566
00:21:52,130 --> 00:21:49,110
government and its headquarters are

567
00:21:54,830 --> 00:21:52,140
located in Washington DC and I send

568
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:54,840
letters to local officials via the

569
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:56,730
headquarters in Washington DC just to

570
00:22:01,160 --> 00:21:58,170
demonstrate that difference in

571
00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:01,170
jurisdiction hmm yeah that's such an

572
00:22:06,350 --> 00:22:02,220
important point I've heard you guys

573
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:06,360
mention on the show that on paper being

574
00:22:10,580 --> 00:22:08,490
a federal employee doesn't allow you to

575
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:10,590
participate in state government and that

576
00:22:16,820 --> 00:22:13,020
is one explanation for why the federal

577
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,830
government expands so much right well

578
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:19,200
there's the the Constitution was built

579
00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:21,570
in such a way that you have the states

580
00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:24,600
and and its population adversaries with

581
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:26,520
the federal government and what the

582
00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:28,290
federal government is been able to do is

583
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:30,750
just kind of manage all of that make the

584
00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:33,570
states just be empty by voluntary

585
00:22:37,310 --> 00:22:34,860
consent and they're able to maintain

586
00:22:40,790 --> 00:22:37,320
plausible deniability on why these

587
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:40,800
states are empty and there's nobody with

588
00:22:46,340 --> 00:22:43,110
standing who's been able to bring a case

589
00:22:49,250 --> 00:22:46,350
that is able to invoke the substantive

590
00:22:51,180 --> 00:22:49,260
rights associated with being an article

591
00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:51,190
4 citizen and

592
00:22:54,510 --> 00:22:52,870
it escapes me right now Todd but what

593
00:23:00,540 --> 00:22:54,520
was the name of that case with the

594
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:00,550
sheriff with a Mac V Prince V yeah sorry

595
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:02,290
yeah there it's V United States

596
00:23:08,550 --> 00:23:06,850
you know gotcha yeah PRI and T Z and at

597
00:23:10,050 --> 00:23:08,560
the same time Sheriff Richard Mack was

598
00:23:13,410 --> 00:23:10,060
involved in that their cases got

599
00:23:15,710 --> 00:23:13,420
collapsed into into the same one and and

600
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:15,720
the reason you bring that up quarry is

601
00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:19,690
well the Justice Thomas who is very well

602
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:22,750
known for you know saying very little he

603
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:25,690
wrote a concurring opinion and in that

604
00:23:29,250 --> 00:23:27,490
concurring opinion you know from the

605
00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:29,260
position of being an article 4 citizen

606
00:23:34,350 --> 00:23:31,510
to me it's just the the federal courts

607
00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:34,360
screaming for somebody to bring this

608
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:36,070
Authority of the several states to

609
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:38,770
resist the federal government right on

610
00:23:43,020 --> 00:23:41,170
so you guys have touched on several

611
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:43,030
things that I want to get into deeper

612
00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:46,480
but on the common law ID how exactly do

613
00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:48,790
we go about making one for ourselves and

614
00:23:52,140 --> 00:23:50,020
you talked about some of its benefits

615
00:23:55,170 --> 00:23:52,150
but a lot of those benefits are also

616
00:23:57,300 --> 00:23:55,180
things that you can do with a typical

617
00:24:00,960 --> 00:23:57,310
driver's license or federal ID what's

618
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:00,970
the benefit of going with this second

619
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:03,490
system and and how exactly do we make

620
00:24:07,350 --> 00:24:04,960
that ID for ourselves if we're

621
00:24:09,630 --> 00:24:07,360
interested I think one of the biggest

622
00:24:11,730 --> 00:24:09,640
benefits is that it's it's training

623
00:24:14,790 --> 00:24:11,740
yourself to be self-determining it's

624
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:14,800
it's it's it's retraining your synapse

625
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:17,170
is in your brain it's it's it's it's

626
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:20,080
like exercising exercising your article

627
00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:23,110
for state citizenship by using it I mean

628
00:24:28,740 --> 00:24:27,040
I get I'll go to Best Buy electronic

629
00:24:29,820 --> 00:24:28,750
store to get a cell phone for one of my

630
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:29,830
employees and they want to see a

631
00:24:32,790 --> 00:24:31,330
driver's license and I say well here's

632
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:32,800
my ID and well where's your driver's

633
00:24:36,510 --> 00:24:34,810
license well this is my ID and then it

634
00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:36,520
just starts a dialogue about what we're

635
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:37,990
talking about and they finally go okay

636
00:24:41,010 --> 00:24:39,250
because well you don't they don't really

637
00:24:42,450 --> 00:24:41,020
need a driver's license they just they

638
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:42,460
needed something some identification

639
00:24:46,350 --> 00:24:44,110
right and you start a dialogue with

640
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:46,360
people about these respective concepts

641
00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:48,130
and until we're talking about this stuff

642
00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:49,630
people don't even think about it that's

643
00:24:53,910 --> 00:24:51,520
one benefit of using it the other

644
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:53,920
benefit I can think of is it is proof

645
00:24:58,650 --> 00:24:56,650
positive action actions you have taken

646
00:25:01,380 --> 00:24:58,660
behavior you have exhibited that you are

647
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:01,390
average a ve are the verb of varying

648
00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:04,450
your state citizenship you keep your not

649
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:05,080
identified

650
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:06,970
yourself as government property you're

651
00:25:10,620 --> 00:25:09,010
identifying yourself with a given name

652
00:25:12,750 --> 00:25:10,630
and a family name you're not identifying

653
00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:12,760
yourself with a first name and a last

654
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:14,620
name because those identifications are

655
00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:16,510
labels and attributes that the

656
00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:19,000
government owns via the birth record and

657
00:25:24,210 --> 00:25:22,150
so you have to walk the talk it's it's

658
00:25:26,010 --> 00:25:24,220
not easy you know you get it you get

659
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:26,020
your genitals felt up at the airport

660
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:28,330
when you hands it yeah you get a special

661
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:30,010
pat-down because you didn't have govco

662
00:25:36,990 --> 00:25:33,850
ID but you know it you you are you're

663
00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:37,000
standing upright is that trade-off worth

664
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:38,260
it I guess that's the big question

665
00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:41,890
because it seems kind of like semantics

666
00:25:46,830 --> 00:25:44,350
to have the second idea especially if

667
00:25:49,650 --> 00:25:46,840
it's gonna bring in more increased

668
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:49,660
scrutiny because you know I'm fighting

669
00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:51,250
against the clock here we have limited

670
00:25:55,650 --> 00:25:53,620
time on this earth and I want my

671
00:25:58,290 --> 00:25:55,660
interactions with this system to be as

672
00:26:00,960 --> 00:25:58,300
minimal as possible and maybe that

673
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:00,970
sounds like nails on a chalkboard do you

674
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:02,410
guys who are actually trying to do much

675
00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:05,110
more but oh I like minimal involvement

676
00:26:10,290 --> 00:26:07,900
well yeah right of course

677
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:10,300
I just mean I can understand how it

678
00:26:14,430 --> 00:26:12,310
might be frustrating for people doing

679
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:14,440
the hard work you're doing to hear

680
00:26:18,990 --> 00:26:17,440
someone like me say that I don't know if

681
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:19,000
I feel that it's worth it but I have to

682
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:21,370
ask you I mean is that trade-off really

683
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:23,890
worth it you know Greg I think from

684
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:25,450
looking at it from a different point of

685
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:28,210
view big picture it is worth it when you

686
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:30,700
a ver article for citizenship versus

687
00:26:35,610 --> 00:26:33,010
being a citizen or a resident of one of

688
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:35,620
the administrative states there's a huge

689
00:26:39,270 --> 00:26:37,450
difference in responsibility for the

690
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:39,280
federal government those administrative

691
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:41,050
states have no guarantee to exist

692
00:26:44,670 --> 00:26:42,610
there's nothing that absolutely

693
00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:44,680
guarantees that they can exist they're

694
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:46,600
there if they're profitable for the

695
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:49,450
overlords however the article for state

696
00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:52,090
is guaranteed a Republican form of

697
00:26:56,610 --> 00:26:54,370
government in fact in a court case Texas

698
00:26:58,530 --> 00:26:56,620
v white part of what the court

699
00:27:00,720 --> 00:26:58,540
attributed the authority of the Civil

700
00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:00,730
War to be prosecuted by the north was

701
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:02,950
based on the southern states having

702
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:05,050
become rebellious and that they had an

703
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:07,210
obligation to guarantee a Republican

704
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:09,730
form of government to those states so

705
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:12,970
now what would happen think about it if

706
00:27:18,050 --> 00:27:16,090
we had a system where these states were

707
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:18,060
the dominant authority rather than

708
00:27:23,120 --> 00:27:19,410
Washington DC to be the dominant

709
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:23,130
authority the benefit is just amazing

710
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:25,320
for example in California if you own a

711
00:27:32,270 --> 00:27:27,690
corporation and that corporation does

712
00:27:34,460 --> 00:27:32,280
something illegal the the the principles

713
00:27:36,770 --> 00:27:34,470
of that corporation are responsible for

714
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:36,780
the behavior of the company as if they

715
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:39,360
were doing this themselves unlike the

716
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:41,610
current corporations we have now where

717
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:43,710
there's nobody responsible for the

718
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:45,570
behavior of these corporations that's

719
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:48,840
one huge benefit as a people that we can

720
00:27:55,460 --> 00:27:52,080
we can absolutely demand without any

721
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:55,470
question that the state be run properly

722
00:28:00,050 --> 00:27:57,090
and that the people be guaranteed

723
00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:00,060
article for citizenship if there's if

724
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:02,340
there's fewer and fewer customers that

725
00:28:04,970 --> 00:28:03,840
are in the administrative form of

726
00:28:08,180 --> 00:28:04,980
government under the fourteenth

727
00:28:10,130 --> 00:28:08,190
amendment then it will starve these this

728
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:10,140
Leviathan that we're all resisting

729
00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:12,930
against so I think cumulatively Grieg be

730
00:28:16,610 --> 00:28:14,760
if you were to take the easy road

731
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:16,620
because you're absolutely right I I

732
00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:18,690
don't think there's anything that I can

733
00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:21,150
say that makes it easier to travel

734
00:28:24,260 --> 00:28:22,620
around without a driver's license

735
00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:24,270
without plates on the car and having a

736
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:26,070
common law ID there's there's not really

737
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:28,620
anything that I can say right now is a

738
00:28:33,290 --> 00:28:31,530
huge benefit so for the people that are

739
00:28:34,810 --> 00:28:33,300
deeply concerned about what kind of

740
00:28:36,950 --> 00:28:34,820
world we're gonna leave to our grandkids

741
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:36,960
trying to right the mistakes of our

742
00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:39,840
great-grandparents and and the financial

743
00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:42,360
system the unsecured money supply the

744
00:28:47,270 --> 00:28:44,670
allow the elastic money supply that is

745
00:28:50,150 --> 00:28:47,280
allowed to operate because the states

746
00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:50,160
are not there to give competition to it

747
00:28:55,340 --> 00:28:52,380
and the States for example California or

748
00:28:58,070 --> 00:28:55,350
or any of the several states they're not

749
00:29:00,680 --> 00:28:58,080
allowed to use fiat currency they must

750
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:00,690
pay their bills in gold and silver and

751
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:03,330
if we have gold and silver that is being

752
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:05,940
circulated by employees who work for

753
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:08,370
these several states then that would put

754
00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:11,370
a fantastic restraint on the

755
00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:13,500
government's ability to or the Federal

756
00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:15,390
Reserve's ability to just print

757
00:29:21,170 --> 00:29:18,060
unlimited numbers of Federal Reserve

758
00:29:23,390 --> 00:29:21,180
notes because there would be a competing

759
00:29:25,790 --> 00:29:23,400
currency that would be circulating so

760
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:25,800
for the people who are you know what the

761
00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:27,330
tip of the spear I know Todd going

762
00:29:31,070 --> 00:29:29,040
through the airport it's not fun getting

763
00:29:31,769 --> 00:29:31,080
your nuts grabbed because you're using a

764
00:29:34,169 --> 00:29:31,779
common law

765
00:29:36,029 --> 00:29:34,179
d and I can tell you it is not fun

766
00:29:39,180 --> 00:29:36,039
getting pulled over and having your car

767
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:39,190
towed but it does give me the standing

768
00:29:44,609 --> 00:29:41,440
to be able to hit back as hard as I

769
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:44,619
possibly can using the authority of an

770
00:29:49,889 --> 00:29:47,200
article for citizen domiciled in one of

771
00:29:52,349 --> 00:29:49,899
the states as defined in article 4 so

772
00:29:54,749 --> 00:29:52,359
it's more of a big-picture benefit long

773
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,759
term benefit for people who are you know

774
00:29:59,339 --> 00:29:56,320
interested in preserving freedom

775
00:30:01,169 --> 00:29:59,349
preserving a form of government that is

776
00:30:04,289 --> 00:30:01,179
much more stable than we currently have

777
00:30:06,690 --> 00:30:04,299
the 18:49 government is very difficult

778
00:30:09,509 --> 00:30:06,700
to change it's very difficult for

779
00:30:10,709 --> 00:30:09,519
politicians to make wild changes to it

780
00:30:13,799 --> 00:30:10,719
like we currently have in our

781
00:30:16,769 --> 00:30:13,809
Constitution where you know anybody a

782
00:30:18,749 --> 00:30:16,779
union who can afford to get 500,000

783
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:18,759
signatures can put something on the

784
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:20,769
ballot add a few million bucks to it and

785
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:22,809
have a constitutional change right away

786
00:30:27,810 --> 00:30:25,679
where there isn't the time to be able to

787
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:27,820
for people to understand what that

788
00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:29,830
change is going to be it's all just lies

789
00:30:34,859 --> 00:30:32,409
that they tell whereas in the old form

790
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:34,869
of government that Republic is

791
00:30:39,749 --> 00:30:37,570
incredibly stable for the politicians to

792
00:30:42,659 --> 00:30:39,759
make a change it requires a time period

793
00:30:46,109 --> 00:30:42,669
that involves them getting reelected

794
00:30:47,759 --> 00:30:46,119
before that change occurs and there's a

795
00:30:50,609 --> 00:30:47,769
reason why there was hardly any changes

796
00:30:52,979 --> 00:30:50,619
to it and it's a it's a government that

797
00:30:54,719 --> 00:30:52,989
works much better for the people rather

798
00:30:56,909 --> 00:30:54,729
than the current system that we have

799
00:30:59,310 --> 00:30:56,919
where everybody works for the federal

800
00:31:01,950 --> 00:30:59,320
government that makes sense that really

801
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:01,960
does and solid answer to because there

802
00:31:07,139 --> 00:31:04,690
is really not going to be a victory over

803
00:31:09,419 --> 00:31:07,149
the system without some sacrifice

804
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:09,429
without some inconvenience and to be on

805
00:31:13,729 --> 00:31:11,769
the front lines of that fight is a noble

806
00:31:16,019 --> 00:31:13,739
thing especially when so many people are

807
00:31:18,539 --> 00:31:16,029
distracted don't even realize it's

808
00:31:20,099 --> 00:31:18,549
happening it can be probably pretty

809
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:20,109
frustrating to feel those things on a

810
00:31:25,109 --> 00:31:22,769
personal level when the greater

811
00:31:26,999 --> 00:31:25,119
population is just completely ignorant

812
00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:27,009
but Todd I wanted to ask you a little

813
00:31:32,310 --> 00:31:30,070
bit more about flying because flying is

814
00:31:35,579 --> 00:31:32,320
one of the most document heavy and

815
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:35,589
regulated activities that a person in

816
00:31:39,659 --> 00:31:37,330
America can go through especially in a

817
00:31:41,489 --> 00:31:39,669
post-911 world to say that you actually

818
00:31:43,049 --> 00:31:41,499
got onto a plane with one of these

819
00:31:44,940 --> 00:31:43,059
common-law IDs I mean this does

820
00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:44,950
something to kind of show

821
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,809
that there's validity to this type of

822
00:31:51,330 --> 00:31:48,399
identification how did that play out

823
00:31:53,310 --> 00:31:51,340
where you actually flew without a

824
00:31:55,980 --> 00:31:53,320
federal ID that probably shocks some

825
00:31:58,049 --> 00:31:55,990
people well I have to give credit where

826
00:32:00,450 --> 00:31:58,059
credit's to fill most SEC is the first

827
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:00,460
one to to investigate this and walk the

828
00:32:04,259 --> 00:32:02,110
talk he didn't use a common law idea he

829
00:32:06,450 --> 00:32:04,269
just didn't have any ID and I believe

830
00:32:09,659 --> 00:32:06,460
he's from New Mexico but was flying in

831
00:32:12,299 --> 00:32:09,669
Seattle and he was and if you just look

832
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:12,309
up MOC ek fill most sectors hold videos

833
00:32:16,830 --> 00:32:14,710
about him out there and he took it to a

834
00:32:19,350 --> 00:32:16,840
court hearing and it was proven in court

835
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:19,360
that there is no requirement to have a

836
00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:21,010
government-issued ID at the checkpoint

837
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:24,460
so I offered my common ID just as a

838
00:32:27,299 --> 00:32:26,320
courtesy to start the dialogue of who I

839
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:27,309
say I am

840
00:32:31,259 --> 00:32:29,049
I could have stepped up and said I don't

841
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:31,269
need an ID and just you know let's you

842
00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:31,840
deal with me

843
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:33,880
what do you technically what they have

844
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:36,250
to do is the TSA just has to determine

845
00:32:40,529 --> 00:32:38,559
that you are not on the list the

846
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:40,539
so-called terrorist list that's their

847
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:43,929
technical empirical mandate for the

848
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:45,850
checkpoint to pass through which is

849
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:48,490
folly on its surface because when you

850
00:32:52,529 --> 00:32:50,230
when when when the plane ticket is put

851
00:32:54,570 --> 00:32:52,539
in the name of the passenger the system

852
00:32:56,340 --> 00:32:54,580
can check that right away and already

853
00:32:57,750 --> 00:32:56,350
know that here comes somebody who's you

854
00:33:00,360 --> 00:32:57,760
know it's on our list let's set them

855
00:33:03,299 --> 00:33:00,370
aside and grill them right not on the

856
00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:03,309
list why am I being talked to and this

857
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,220
is the the travesty of the checkpoint at

858
00:33:10,830 --> 00:33:08,320
TSA is that if everybody showed up and

859
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:10,840
said screw you we're not showing an ID

860
00:33:14,430 --> 00:33:12,850
it would shut down the airlines the

861
00:33:16,649 --> 00:33:14,440
airlines would be livid the airports

862
00:33:18,810 --> 00:33:16,659
wouldn't have any any revenue they would

863
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:18,820
go away so it isn't really about a

864
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:20,470
common ID that got me through it was

865
00:33:25,379 --> 00:33:21,970
just that I'd refused to use a

866
00:33:27,659 --> 00:33:25,389
government-issued ID and when I handed

867
00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:27,669
it to him they on my way out word I was

868
00:33:31,289 --> 00:33:29,470
going to visit Corey actually I was

869
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:31,299
flying out of a small airport out of

870
00:33:34,259 --> 00:33:32,950
Illinois I mean they the audio is on are

871
00:33:35,370 --> 00:33:34,269
they just were like oh we're you don't

872
00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:35,380
have a government I said this is my

873
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:38,470
identification and all fairness he said

874
00:33:41,490 --> 00:33:39,730
well do you have anything else I said

875
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:41,500
you know I've got a business car and

876
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:44,230
I've got a Costco card and Oh a Costco

877
00:33:48,379 --> 00:33:46,480
card okay all right I can so you know

878
00:33:50,909 --> 00:33:48,389
that that checked a box for him

879
00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:50,919
corporate America yeah you still have to

880
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:53,350
get it and technically that's probably

881
00:33:57,869 --> 00:33:55,809
working for him because to get a Costco

882
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:57,879
card you typically have to show a

883
00:34:00,460 --> 00:33:58,850
driver's license

884
00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:00,470
it always goes back to that that that

885
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:02,900
original application for who you say you

886
00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:05,630
are mmm and that's the thread they

887
00:34:09,310 --> 00:34:07,580
probably followed if you will to check a

888
00:34:11,230 --> 00:34:09,320
box but nonetheless I was still given an

889
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:11,240
enhanced pat-down and it's set aside but

890
00:34:15,070 --> 00:34:12,890
there was no big bells and whistles

891
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:15,080
there was no freakout session I was

892
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:18,320
probably you know took me you know seven

893
00:34:22,420 --> 00:34:20,110
minutes to get through instead of two

894
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:22,430
mm-hmm you know so it wasn't like it was

895
00:34:26,860 --> 00:34:24,770
a big crisis and I just think people

896
00:34:28,810 --> 00:34:26,870
should avail themselves a bit more often

897
00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:28,820
imagine if all the Bernie Sanders

898
00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:32,390
followers decided to you know that fly

899
00:34:37,780 --> 00:34:34,700
decided to not use a government-issued

900
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:37,790
ID and it which is they I've talked to

901
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:39,950
TSA people I've been in meetings with

902
00:34:44,650 --> 00:34:42,290
the airport that where I live here is is

903
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:44,660
the head of all training for all TSA in

904
00:34:47,860 --> 00:34:46,430
Illinois except for Cook County except

905
00:34:50,590 --> 00:34:47,870
for the Chicago area they train every

906
00:34:52,660 --> 00:34:50,600
other TSA agent for Illinois and so they

907
00:34:54,430 --> 00:34:52,670
have some you know high ups here and I'm

908
00:34:56,110 --> 00:34:54,440
in morning meetings because I actually

909
00:34:57,610 --> 00:34:56,120
sell the advertising at this Airport

910
00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:57,620
here and I go to these monthly meetings

911
00:35:02,110 --> 00:34:59,330
in this guy sitting there and he says

912
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:02,120
out loud there was a concern with the

913
00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:05,090
business community that our Illinois

914
00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:06,950
driver's license gonna be accepted at

915
00:35:10,540 --> 00:35:08,540
the checkpoint because of the national

916
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:10,550
ID Act kind of on the rise that still

917
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:12,530
kind of be a push behind the scenes and

918
00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:14,330
there's scuttlebutt about it and he said

919
00:35:17,890 --> 00:35:16,550
oh if you don't have your ID you know

920
00:35:19,870 --> 00:35:17,900
you just need to talk to us and we'll

921
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,880
work it out kind of thing and I raised

922
00:35:23,950 --> 00:35:21,440
my hand and I said correct me if I'm

923
00:35:24,970 --> 00:35:23,960
wrong Jeff but technically there is no

924
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:24,980
requirement to have any

925
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:26,450
government-issued ID to get through the

926
00:35:30,670 --> 00:35:28,370
checkpoint correct and he looked at me

927
00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:30,680
it goes yep and then he moved on hahaha

928
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:32,150
it was like nothing to see here like

929
00:35:35,410 --> 00:35:33,650
nobody was you know I didn't want to

930
00:35:36,970 --> 00:35:35,420
make a huge scene about it but I wanted

931
00:35:38,350 --> 00:35:36,980
to check the box in front of others and

932
00:35:40,810 --> 00:35:38,360
he knew exactly what I was talking about

933
00:35:43,410 --> 00:35:40,820
and there it is there there is no

934
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:43,420
requirement right it's heavily heavily

935
00:35:48,370 --> 00:35:46,160
recommended but there's no legal

936
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:48,380
requirement all they can do is kind of

937
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:51,170
use all those that forceful language

938
00:35:58,180 --> 00:35:55,310
yeah its total total theater for mind

939
00:36:00,460 --> 00:35:58,190
control of a populace right and to your

940
00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:00,470
earlier point about it being a magic

941
00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:02,720
trick maybe we should spend a little

942
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:04,700
time on the fact that the government

943
00:36:11,230 --> 00:36:08,090
purposefully uses homonyms or homophones

944
00:36:12,460 --> 00:36:11,240
to be extra deceptive these are those

945
00:36:14,859 --> 00:36:12,470
words that have the same

946
00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:14,869
spelling and they're phonetically the

947
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:17,240
same but have dual meetings when it's

948
00:36:22,599 --> 00:36:18,710
convenient this is one of their big

949
00:36:24,339 --> 00:36:22,609
tricks right absolutely so when they

950
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:24,349
refer to the state of California or they

951
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:26,330
use the term United States you know all

952
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:28,430
of those are words that you have to

953
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:30,200
really drill down what are they talking

954
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:33,710
about so there's two different state of

955
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,290
California there's the one that we think

956
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:38,480
of classically where you know you're in

957
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:40,970
San Diego and I'm up here in Los Angeles

958
00:36:45,070 --> 00:36:42,970
were both within the borders of

959
00:36:46,570 --> 00:36:45,080
California we would agree with that

960
00:36:48,970 --> 00:36:46,580
but now we've got to figure out which

961
00:36:53,170 --> 00:36:48,980
California we're in the only one that

962
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:53,180
has borders is the 18-49 California so

963
00:36:58,570 --> 00:36:56,450
geographically speaking we are in you

964
00:37:00,700 --> 00:36:58,580
know are located standing on dirt that

965
00:37:02,859 --> 00:37:00,710
is within the territorial limits of

966
00:37:06,010 --> 00:37:02,869
California one of the several states

967
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:06,020
now the other California operates very

968
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:08,570
differently it doesn't have borders and

969
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:11,359
it's physically located in the United

970
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,130
States and if you look at California

971
00:37:17,740 --> 00:37:15,440
Commercial Code ninety-three o7h it's

972
00:37:20,290 --> 00:37:17,750
very clear the United States is located

973
00:37:23,380 --> 00:37:20,300
in the District of Columbia and so that

974
00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:23,390
state of California that is the one that

975
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:26,740
they refer to is physically located at

976
00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:30,010
4:44 North Capitol Way Northwest

977
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:32,390
District of Columbia that that's where

978
00:37:38,859 --> 00:37:36,730
it's located so if you're in the the

979
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:38,869
California that's in the United States

980
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:41,570
it's kind of like saying you're in a

981
00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:43,970
religion so there's one California

982
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,260
that's the dirt that you stand on

983
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:46,880
there's another one that through your

984
00:37:51,339 --> 00:37:49,250
actions you can be a part of just like

985
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:51,349
you could be a part of any church and if

986
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:52,910
you and I were standing outside in a

987
00:37:59,079 --> 00:37:55,700
park you know if I were to ask you are

988
00:38:01,420 --> 00:37:59,089
you part of a church organization or are

989
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:01,430
you in the church you would know in that

990
00:38:04,810 --> 00:38:03,230
context I'm not asking you right then

991
00:38:06,730 --> 00:38:04,820
physically are you standing in a church

992
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:06,740
because obviously we're outside in a

993
00:38:11,230 --> 00:38:09,680
park right that so that it's the same

994
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:11,240
thing by saying you're in the state of

995
00:38:15,730 --> 00:38:13,400
California they use that all the time

996
00:38:17,050 --> 00:38:15,740
and what they do with the words is

997
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:17,060
they'll switch them around for example

998
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:20,210
if you go look at the the limit sign I

999
00:38:23,079 --> 00:38:21,410
don't know if you drive up to San

1000
00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:23,089
Clemente at all but there's a Orange

1001
00:38:27,820 --> 00:38:25,640
County line and then the

1002
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:27,830
the city of San Clemente city limit sign

1003
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:29,330
that is right there on the border

1004
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:31,250
between San Clemente and where San

1005
00:38:36,460 --> 00:38:33,770
Onofre is and that's a great sign

1006
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:36,470
because it's very clear it says orange

1007
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:38,870
in big words it just says orange and

1008
00:38:44,170 --> 00:38:41,810
then below it county limit and then

1009
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:44,180
below that is a sign that says San

1010
00:38:49,570 --> 00:38:47,510
Clemente city limit you know if you're

1011
00:38:51,370 --> 00:38:49,580
in either one of those jurisdictions if

1012
00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:51,380
somebody's giving you a problem if you

1013
00:38:56,290 --> 00:38:53,870
get a ticket from you know parking

1014
00:39:00,130 --> 00:38:56,300
ticket in San Clemente which I've gotten

1015
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:00,140
quite a few then the parking ticket

1016
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:03,050
comes from a organization called city of

1017
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:06,710
San Clemente and that is a corporation

1018
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:10,370
that has a very special political power

1019
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:12,770
to it under the Fourteenth Amendment and

1020
00:39:18,370 --> 00:39:15,440
so that that's where they get you just I

1021
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:18,380
try and use the illustration of like

1022
00:39:24,250 --> 00:39:21,170
computer code if if there's a line in

1023
00:39:27,370 --> 00:39:24,260
computer code that requires the wording

1024
00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:27,380
to be Orange County limit and you were

1025
00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:29,990
to put in County of Orange then that

1026
00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:31,940
particular line of computer code won't

1027
00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:35,750
work and so that that's how identify or

1028
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:37,700
to begin with that's just one of the

1029
00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:40,400
many attributes I use to identify what

1030
00:39:45,730 --> 00:39:41,900
is the organization that I'm dealing

1031
00:39:48,370 --> 00:39:45,740
with and that that's something that's

1032
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:48,380
really important so right on yeah and

1033
00:39:52,540 --> 00:39:50,570
another thing I wanted to go into a

1034
00:39:55,690 --> 00:39:52,550
little more in depth was the birth

1035
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:55,700
record because I hear that these birth

1036
00:40:00,250 --> 00:39:57,770
certificates are traded on the stock

1037
00:40:02,350 --> 00:40:00,260
market as if we are livestock

1038
00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:02,360
quote-unquote and I'm not sure how much

1039
00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:03,830
truth there is to that but do we really

1040
00:40:08,110 --> 00:40:06,260
know the extent in which they use these

1041
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:08,120
birth certificates is that the same kind

1042
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:10,610
of impression you guys get to in

1043
00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:11,930
California I don't know Todd have you

1044
00:40:15,730 --> 00:40:13,400
checked it out out there but I know in

1045
00:40:18,430 --> 00:40:15,740
California I verified that the actual

1046
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:18,440
original birth record is on file at the

1047
00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:19,610
Department of Public Health in

1048
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:21,140
Sacramento it's in Department of Public

1049
00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:23,510
Health vital records in Sacramento it's

1050
00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:26,060
a document that the state owns I've

1051
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:28,670
never been able to verify any of the you

1052
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:32,210
know what I call PJ and or P&J theory of

1053
00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:34,400
being physically traded on the stock

1054
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,160
market and all of that that just kind of

1055
00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:38,480
to me is a rabbit hole

1056
00:40:42,670 --> 00:40:40,460
I've tried to research and find some

1057
00:40:44,349 --> 00:40:42,680
evidence of that being true and have not

1058
00:40:46,810 --> 00:40:44,359
been able to find that nor do I think

1059
00:40:48,430 --> 00:40:46,820
they really need it because if you're

1060
00:40:50,980 --> 00:40:48,440
identifying yourself using a

1061
00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:50,990
state-issued birth record then they've

1062
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:52,820
got you they don't need to trade the

1063
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:54,800
birth record on the stock market they

1064
00:40:59,859 --> 00:40:58,400
control you 100% and they control how

1065
00:41:02,470 --> 00:40:59,869
much income you get to keep when you

1066
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:02,480
work what licenses you have to have you

1067
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,190
know they control everything once you

1068
00:41:08,890 --> 00:41:06,560
have subscribed yourself through a

1069
00:41:11,290 --> 00:41:08,900
political pledge of being the person on

1070
00:41:13,089 --> 00:41:11,300
that birth record and then operating

1071
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:13,099
within federal authority under the

1072
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:15,290
Fourteenth Amendment PN J stands for

1073
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:18,290
Patriot nutjob by the way ha ha ha right

1074
00:41:23,020 --> 00:41:20,510
on get it clarify it coordinate both

1075
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:23,030
dealt with plenty of P and J's along the

1076
00:41:27,460 --> 00:41:24,530
way many of them are well-intentioned

1077
00:41:28,839 --> 00:41:27,470
and that that concept of the the birth

1078
00:41:30,849 --> 00:41:28,849
record or birth certificate being a

1079
00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,859
trade on the stock what I think happens

1080
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:32,960
is that it's a very very they call it

1081
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:35,119
vital statistics for a reason in each

1082
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:37,250
state and we're back to the homograph

1083
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:39,050
the state I'm talking about is the

1084
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:41,450
administrative division of the federal

1085
00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:43,010
government that also is known as the

1086
00:41:47,530 --> 00:41:44,960
state of Iowa or state of California

1087
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:47,540
that's the state we're talking about you

1088
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:49,550
know if you go to this little sidebar if

1089
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:52,640
you go to the CIA World Factbook we've

1090
00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:54,410
talked about this many times on our show

1091
00:41:57,849 --> 00:41:56,030
if you just search for CIA World

1092
00:41:59,920 --> 00:41:57,859
Factbook you'll get a link to it it

1093
00:42:01,540 --> 00:41:59,930
talks about the each country throughout

1094
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:01,550
the world and what kind of government

1095
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,490
they have and they name the states as

1096
00:42:09,460 --> 00:42:06,800
administrative divisions right there at

1097
00:42:11,170 --> 00:42:09,470
the CIA fact so back to the to the to

1098
00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,180
the birth certificate I think what

1099
00:42:15,970 --> 00:42:13,280
happens is these vital vital records and

1100
00:42:18,819 --> 00:42:15,980
vital statistics agencies are being

1101
00:42:21,339 --> 00:42:18,829
tapped for actuary information you know

1102
00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:21,349
forecasting a populace forecasting of

1103
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:23,990
resources things like that so in a in an

1104
00:42:29,230 --> 00:42:25,849
empirical manner there might be some you

1105
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:29,240
know utility to those but only you know

1106
00:42:33,550 --> 00:42:30,710
if you're the federal government and you

1107
00:42:34,750 --> 00:42:33,560
are in the thing that people have a hard

1108
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:34,760
time understanding is the federal

1109
00:42:38,530 --> 00:42:36,770
government was never designed to have

1110
00:42:39,849 --> 00:42:38,540
citizens of its own it wasn't until the

1111
00:42:41,170 --> 00:42:39,859
14th amendment they had citizens of

1112
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:41,180
their own the federal government was

1113
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:43,609
never designed to have a direct impact

1114
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:46,010
to individuals it was supposed to have

1115
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:48,050
an impact on the states and the state

1116
00:42:51,790 --> 00:42:50,060
governments so that the state and state

1117
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:51,800
governments played nice with the state

1118
00:42:54,099 --> 00:42:52,400
and state

1119
00:42:55,839 --> 00:42:54,109
didn't violate the people's rights

1120
00:42:58,720 --> 00:42:55,849
gotcha just like a middleman like an

1121
00:43:01,210 --> 00:42:58,730
intermediary between sovereign states it

1122
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:01,220
was a compact compact the states decided

1123
00:43:06,849 --> 00:43:04,240
to have a compact and have the the

1124
00:43:09,370 --> 00:43:06,859
enforcer so we all play nice together

1125
00:43:12,279 --> 00:43:09,380
and maintain this civility and maintain

1126
00:43:14,589 --> 00:43:12,289
an open society and it's been morphed

1127
00:43:16,029 --> 00:43:14,599
into this top-down I mean I heard you

1128
00:43:17,769 --> 00:43:16,039
know on some radio show the other day

1129
00:43:19,329 --> 00:43:17,779
you know President Obama is deciding a

1130
00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:19,339
new executive order regarding overtime

1131
00:43:24,089 --> 00:43:22,009
and just the general concept that there

1132
00:43:26,739 --> 00:43:24,099
would be some top-down all you know

1133
00:43:29,259 --> 00:43:26,749
overtime shall be like this for

1134
00:43:32,259 --> 00:43:29,269
everybody really how did how did that

1135
00:43:35,289 --> 00:43:32,269
happen where are we totally in this we

1136
00:43:37,690 --> 00:43:35,299
have a king now I mean it's just it's

1137
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:37,700
incredible to me and then the thing that

1138
00:43:41,799 --> 00:43:39,650
corey coined that i we hammer a lot on

1139
00:43:44,890 --> 00:43:41,809
our show about is is that the as a

1140
00:43:46,299 --> 00:43:44,900
federal citizen you are guaranteed core

1141
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:46,309
use that term really the 14-minute

1142
00:43:49,390 --> 00:43:47,450
guarantees certain things that

1143
00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:49,400
guarantees some protections but the

1144
00:43:53,109 --> 00:43:50,839
protections the 14th amendment

1145
00:43:55,930 --> 00:43:53,119
guarantees is that the state the other

1146
00:43:58,569 --> 00:43:55,940
state in that homograph the the actual

1147
00:44:02,049 --> 00:43:58,579
one of the several states the original

1148
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:02,059
state that that state shall not violate

1149
00:44:06,249 --> 00:44:03,410
your rights and this worked for the

1150
00:44:09,249 --> 00:44:06,259
slaves when the 14th amendment was was

1151
00:44:10,839 --> 00:44:09,259
originally impacted because they needed

1152
00:44:12,489 --> 00:44:10,849
to have protections because you know

1153
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:12,499
people still wanted to have slaves even

1154
00:44:15,609 --> 00:44:14,210
after the Civil War the feds had to

1155
00:44:17,019 --> 00:44:15,619
enforce it and say no we're gonna afford

1156
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:17,029
to eat the money you can be a federal

1157
00:44:21,279 --> 00:44:19,249
citizen and we'll make sure you're not

1158
00:44:23,470 --> 00:44:21,289
violated as a slave now anybody know

1159
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:23,480
yeah I'm in I'm in but that same

1160
00:44:28,979 --> 00:44:25,970
protection does not apply from the

1161
00:44:31,450 --> 00:44:28,989
federal government violating your rights

1162
00:44:33,549 --> 00:44:31,460
it doesn't work that way you don't get

1163
00:44:35,410 --> 00:44:33,559
that same protection so you when you

1164
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:35,420
signed up for federal citizenship you

1165
00:44:41,890 --> 00:44:37,930
signed up for violation by your very

1166
00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:41,900
master Wow

1167
00:44:46,930 --> 00:44:43,910
yeah there's absolutely no protections

1168
00:44:49,059 --> 00:44:46,940
from the federal government upon 14th

1169
00:44:52,150 --> 00:44:49,069
amendment citizens other than what is

1170
00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:52,160
statutory civil rights and and that's

1171
00:44:55,950 --> 00:44:53,900
what you know you hear that term all the

1172
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:55,960
time demanding your civil rights well

1173
00:45:01,059 --> 00:44:58,970
civil rights are akin to a father's

1174
00:45:03,130 --> 00:45:01,069
right over a four-year-old child you

1175
00:45:05,529 --> 00:45:03,140
know the father may say ok you have the

1176
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:05,539
right to stay up late tonight but if we

1177
00:45:07,930 --> 00:45:06,170
want to change

1178
00:45:10,180 --> 00:45:07,940
bedtime tomorrow we change your bedtime

1179
00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:10,190
tomorrow that there there is just

1180
00:45:14,590 --> 00:45:12,790
absolutely no protections on a

1181
00:45:16,930 --> 00:45:14,600
constitutional basis between a

1182
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:16,940
Fourteenth Amendment citizen being

1183
00:45:21,490 --> 00:45:18,890
impacted directly from the federal

1184
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:21,500
government unlike a for an article for

1185
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:23,510
citizen one of the biggest examples is

1186
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:26,990
income taxes you know it's obviously one

1187
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:28,610
hundred percent abundantly clear to me

1188
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:31,250
that income taxes in the way that they

1189
00:45:35,530 --> 00:45:33,470
are implemented in the way that they're

1190
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:35,540
processed are a hundred percent legal

1191
00:45:40,570 --> 00:45:37,910
even though the federal government is

1192
00:45:42,610 --> 00:45:40,580
not allowed to apply taxes directly upon

1193
00:45:45,310 --> 00:45:42,620
the citizens right in the organic

1194
00:45:47,890 --> 00:45:45,320
portion of the Constitution and that's

1195
00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:47,900
because the 14th amendment citizen does

1196
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:50,300
not have the same protections as an

1197
00:45:55,450 --> 00:45:53,330
article 4 citizen Greg I I've been in

1198
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:55,460
the courtroom on three occasions here in

1199
00:45:59,950 --> 00:45:57,680
Scott County where the judge somebody

1200
00:46:01,540 --> 00:45:59,960
was being adjudicated was you know

1201
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:01,550
struggling to protect themselves and

1202
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:02,810
their rights and brought up either the

1203
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:04,490
state constitution or the federal

1204
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:07,130
constitution and on three occasions out

1205
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:09,110
loud I've heard judges say the

1206
00:46:14,860 --> 00:46:10,970
Constitution has no place in these

1207
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:14,870
proceedings in this matter well that

1208
00:46:18,310 --> 00:46:16,490
says it right there when you hear these

1209
00:46:21,220 --> 00:46:18,320
things you know right there right before

1210
00:46:22,660 --> 00:46:21,230
your very eyes the the topics that

1211
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:22,670
Corinne are talking about don't become

1212
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:25,610
so stretched or or unbelievable they're

1213
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:28,310
totally believable right and another

1214
00:46:32,380 --> 00:46:30,110
thing I thought was fascinating on this

1215
00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:32,390
same subject is in one of your episodes

1216
00:46:37,570 --> 00:46:35,480
you break down some language used by

1217
00:46:41,470 --> 00:46:37,580
Obama and of course Obama's a

1218
00:46:44,110 --> 00:46:41,480
constitutional law professor I guess and

1219
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:44,120
he obviously knows these things down to

1220
00:46:48,220 --> 00:46:45,950
a tee these are the details that I think

1221
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:48,230
that those people should know and when

1222
00:46:53,290 --> 00:46:50,930
he talks he's very careful about the

1223
00:46:56,650 --> 00:46:53,300
terms he uses it's clear from your

1224
00:46:58,540 --> 00:46:56,660
breakdown that he's definitely pivoting

1225
00:47:02,320 --> 00:46:58,550
from word to word based on its technical

1226
00:47:04,810 --> 00:47:02,330
application we absolutely yeah that's

1227
00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,820
when there's a clip we play from time to

1228
00:47:10,690 --> 00:47:06,800
time on there and he's down in Mexico

1229
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:10,700
and it's during the the what's the name

1230
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,010
of the controversy with the gun running

1231
00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:15,680
the Fast and Furious Fast and Furious

1232
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:17,750
had reached kind of a critical mass and

1233
00:47:22,310 --> 00:47:20,010
he was down at some Museum down there

1234
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:22,320
and he said we all know that a lot of

1235
00:47:26,839 --> 00:47:23,910
the guns coming into Mexico are coming

1236
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:26,849
from the United States but at the same

1237
00:47:31,339 --> 00:47:29,670
time in America I've taken an oath of

1238
00:47:34,099 --> 00:47:31,349
office to protect the Second Amendment

1239
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:34,109
and I always will hmm but meanwhile

1240
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:36,510
we're gonna pass laws that keep the guns

1241
00:47:39,859 --> 00:47:38,010
out of dangerous people's hands and so

1242
00:47:41,329 --> 00:47:39,869
there's that flip-flop back and forth

1243
00:47:43,849 --> 00:47:41,339
between those two worlds right there

1244
00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:43,859
it's right in your face yeah man I

1245
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:45,300
thought that was so interesting because

1246
00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:47,640
it does validate a lot of this kind of

1247
00:47:53,540 --> 00:47:50,700
material and you know growing up the

1248
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:53,550
United States definitely seemed like one

1249
00:47:59,720 --> 00:47:56,609
big blanket nation but as I've gotten

1250
00:48:02,120 --> 00:47:59,730
older especially as a STONER myself the

1251
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:02,130
fact that some states are radically

1252
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:03,510
different than other states has never

1253
00:48:07,250 --> 00:48:05,760
really been more apparent than it is

1254
00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:07,260
today the fact that they do have some

1255
00:48:11,420 --> 00:48:09,720
power because doing my favorite habit in

1256
00:48:13,609 --> 00:48:11,430
Texas is far different than doing it in

1257
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:13,619
Colorado right now and I guess I'm

1258
00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:15,510
curious as you guys see it what would

1259
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:17,579
the country look like today if it was

1260
00:48:22,339 --> 00:48:19,950
run as intended where all the states

1261
00:48:23,870 --> 00:48:22,349
basically be their own sovereign nations

1262
00:48:26,510 --> 00:48:23,880
with their own rules as different as

1263
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:26,520
they wanted them to be absolutely as

1264
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:28,710
abrogated yeah that's exactly it as

1265
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:31,710
abrogated by the Constitution there are

1266
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:33,750
certain natural laws that the states

1267
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:35,970
have to follow and in order for them to

1268
00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:38,010
maintain and you know maintain their

1269
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:40,020
Republican form of government if they

1270
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,300
don't if they begin to misbehave then

1271
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:44,400
there's certainly remedy available for

1272
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:46,410
article for citizens to be able to take

1273
00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:49,260
their own state to federal court for

1274
00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:52,140
violations of constitutional protections

1275
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:53,940
that are at the federal level so they

1276
00:48:58,940 --> 00:48:56,490
can't just go crazy but be the

1277
00:49:02,140 --> 00:48:58,950
restrictions on these states in their

1278
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:02,150
relationship with article 4 citizens is

1279
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:05,040
nothing short of profound compared to

1280
00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:08,130
what we're used to today to us to most

1281
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:10,200
citizens today traveling along in your

1282
00:49:15,140 --> 00:49:13,050
car and getting pulled over for what is

1283
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:15,150
really no crime at all you know maybe

1284
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:18,060
doing 65 and a 55 is if you were driving

1285
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:20,130
safe and not put anybody in danger or

1286
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:21,930
anything like that that type of activity

1287
00:49:27,620 --> 00:49:25,050
becomes a crime when I say that type of

1288
00:49:30,140 --> 00:49:27,630
activity I mean somebody dressed up in a

1289
00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:30,150
uniform pulling you over a costume you

1290
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:32,430
arresting you and then making you go

1291
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,570
through the administrative

1292
00:49:38,090 --> 00:49:35,520
process that we know is traffic courts

1293
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:38,100
well in these article four states that

1294
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:39,890
type of behavior is completely

1295
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:43,590
unconstitutional and so we just haven't

1296
00:49:49,970 --> 00:49:47,460
had both a as a people the technology

1297
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:49,980
has not been available for people to be

1298
00:49:56,030 --> 00:49:54,330
able to research the the massive volumes

1299
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:56,040
I mean one things that the government's

1300
00:50:01,160 --> 00:49:57,900
really good at is profiting from

1301
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:01,170
confusion and looking at old newspapers

1302
00:50:06,340 --> 00:50:04,140
and then the way the 1879 Constitution

1303
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:06,350
was passed what was in that Constitution

1304
00:50:12,020 --> 00:50:09,000
the average person would just have no

1305
00:50:14,780 --> 00:50:12,030
clue back in 1879 that their government

1306
00:50:16,610 --> 00:50:14,790
was being hijacked and they would just

1307
00:50:19,220 --> 00:50:16,620
willingly identify themselves as

1308
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:19,230
citizens of this new government simply

1309
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:21,690
because they just didn't have the tools

1310
00:50:25,340 --> 00:50:23,610
that we have available today today I can

1311
00:50:27,230 --> 00:50:25,350
do a word search at a PDF document to

1312
00:50:29,180 --> 00:50:27,240
find out how many times the term United

1313
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:29,190
States is being used in that document

1314
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:31,770
and then scan it really quick and ingest

1315
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:34,260
that information critical information in

1316
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:35,760
a matter of minutes rather than it

1317
00:50:39,530 --> 00:50:37,770
taking hours you know to get to a

1318
00:50:42,620 --> 00:50:39,540
library and so forth the people had

1319
00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:42,630
before so today the work the job of

1320
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:44,430
being able to identify which state

1321
00:50:51,020 --> 00:50:47,130
you're in as a citizen is much easier

1322
00:50:53,180 --> 00:50:51,030
than it was 20 years ago and and so I

1323
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,190
think it's it's just I kind of got off

1324
00:50:57,410 --> 00:50:55,440
on a tangent on searching but I don't

1325
00:50:59,330 --> 00:50:57,420
think that's absolutely attainable

1326
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,340
thinking of ingesting things Greg you

1327
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:01,440
brought up you know marijuana in

1328
00:51:06,140 --> 00:51:03,750
Colorado versus Texas and to that point

1329
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:06,150
consider that nuance there that you know

1330
00:51:09,620 --> 00:51:07,890
we think that there's the ability to

1331
00:51:12,860 --> 00:51:09,630
ingest marijuana and Colorado has been

1332
00:51:15,020 --> 00:51:12,870
granted now go ahead it's hilarious when

1333
00:51:16,490 --> 00:51:15,030
you think about it just on its face you

1334
00:51:18,590 --> 00:51:16,500
know a weed that grows out of the ground

1335
00:51:22,550 --> 00:51:18,600
is now you're allowed to eat it or smoke

1336
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:22,560
it or do it absolutely attacks and only

1337
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:24,480
if you have a license I mean it just it

1338
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:27,660
becomes even more laborious and so it's

1339
00:51:31,790 --> 00:51:29,250
what that is is that's the federal

1340
00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:31,800
government allowing discretion with

1341
00:51:35,570 --> 00:51:33,300
their administrator division called

1342
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:35,580
Colorado and so there's there's this

1343
00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:38,220
this perception that wow it's it's state

1344
00:51:42,650 --> 00:51:39,150
states rights

1345
00:51:44,540 --> 00:51:42,660
well they enough enough people wanted to

1346
00:51:46,130 --> 00:51:44,550
have it okay we're gonna let him do it

1347
00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:46,140
but by god it's gonna be taxed heavily

1348
00:51:49,530 --> 00:51:46,870
and we're gonna

1349
00:51:51,150 --> 00:51:49,540
get a piece of it now in an article for

1350
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:51,160
state you know that necessarily would

1351
00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:53,050
not happen that there wouldn't even be a

1352
00:51:55,710 --> 00:51:54,670
law against marijuana to begin with

1353
00:52:00,420 --> 00:51:55,720
right

1354
00:52:02,190 --> 00:52:00,430
about profiting from confusion that is

1355
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:02,200
definitely what they do creating

1356
00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:04,690
ambiguity is a term I use a lot and

1357
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:07,300
that's exactly how all these different

1358
00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:09,070
sectors operate especially the economic

1359
00:52:13,170 --> 00:52:11,470
system you know they want it that way so

1360
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:13,180
that you don't understand any of these

1361
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:15,310
terms that are going on default credit

1362
00:52:19,170 --> 00:52:17,530
swaps all this kind of stuff it's just

1363
00:52:21,180 --> 00:52:19,180
you tune out from it because it's so

1364
00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:21,190
complex yet this is where the rubber

1365
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:23,380
meets the road this is where you know

1366
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:25,450
everybody's being fleeced and only

1367
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:27,670
because you don't want to dial into the

1368
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:29,170
technical applications that some of this

1369
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:31,330
stuff you really just you let it all

1370
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:33,370
happen or at least you know the larger

1371
00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:35,530
citizenry does they just go with the

1372
00:52:38,610 --> 00:52:36,880
flow because it's a path of least

1373
00:52:40,770 --> 00:52:38,620
resistance and of course a lot of the

1374
00:52:42,510 --> 00:52:40,780
things you've spoken about on and guess

1375
00:52:44,730 --> 00:52:42,520
you've had on your show are dealing with

1376
00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:44,740
the things that have dumbed America down

1377
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:47,020
whether it's vaccinations or what they

1378
00:52:50,550 --> 00:52:48,610
put in the drinking water you know I

1379
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:50,560
mean it's it's it's all part of the mix

1380
00:52:54,090 --> 00:52:52,510
what they're spraying us with it's it's

1381
00:52:56,370 --> 00:52:54,100
all there it's all what keeps everybody

1382
00:52:58,740 --> 00:52:56,380
dumbed down and you know we've you know

1383
00:53:01,260 --> 00:52:58,750
coined we talked about how it's easier

1384
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:01,270
to fool a US citizen than it is to

1385
00:53:07,290 --> 00:53:05,050
convince him he's been fooled amen it

1386
00:53:08,910 --> 00:53:07,300
definitely is and another point you

1387
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:08,920
talked about the court system earlier

1388
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:11,290
and having dealt with a lot of this both

1389
00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:13,240
of you guys is there much of a

1390
00:53:17,790 --> 00:53:16,150
difference between Superior Court and

1391
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:17,800
federal court and does either really

1392
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:19,510
have the best interest of the people in

1393
00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:22,450
mind well you know my I have not been in

1394
00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:24,700
a federal court action yet everything

1395
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:27,160
that I've put together is geared towards

1396
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:29,890
heading to a federal court action but I

1397
00:53:34,350 --> 00:53:32,290
want to be incredibly prepared and have

1398
00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:34,360
the absolute best foundation I possibly

1399
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,630
can and that requires me to engage with

1400
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:39,280
the administrative government here in

1401
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:42,190
California and so at the administrative

1402
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:46,030
level the superior courts are courts of

1403
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:48,370
the United States you know they're they

1404
00:53:53,340 --> 00:53:51,040
openly show the flag with the gold

1405
00:53:56,010 --> 00:53:53,350
fringe on it which I interpret is

1406
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:56,020
indicating through from the basis of

1407
00:54:00,720 --> 00:53:58,930
executive authority that you're in

1408
00:54:02,370 --> 00:54:00,730
United States jurisdiction in these

1409
00:54:05,820 --> 00:54:02,380
kourt's you're not in one of the several

1410
00:54:08,550 --> 00:54:05,830
states and those courts their job is to

1411
00:54:11,340 --> 00:54:08,560
protect the infrastructure from US

1412
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:11,350
citizens and then fleece as much as they

1413
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:13,660
possibly can and I have some good

1414
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:15,570
friends here in California that have

1415
00:54:21,390 --> 00:54:18,370
dedicated a tremendous amount of time to

1416
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:21,400
working within the system and fighting

1417
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:23,890
you know traffic tickets registration

1418
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:27,250
tickets and so forth and they lose not

1419
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:29,230
because their arguments aren't sound

1420
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:31,570
it's because the authority and these

1421
00:54:36,810 --> 00:54:33,850
jurisdictions are you're going to lose

1422
00:54:39,330 --> 00:54:36,820
that that's just how it is so when I

1423
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:39,340
engage with for instance the Superior

1424
00:54:44,010 --> 00:54:40,930
Court there's limitations on their

1425
00:54:45,870 --> 00:54:44,020
authority if if you can show that

1426
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:45,880
they're blatantly violating the rights

1427
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:48,430
of an article for citizen and willfully

1428
00:54:55,350 --> 00:54:52,450
ignoring evidence of maybe misconduct by

1429
00:54:57,720 --> 00:54:55,360
prosecutorial agencies then my opinion

1430
00:54:59,670 --> 00:54:57,730
is I would be able to have standing to

1431
00:55:01,560 --> 00:54:59,680
create an action with not only the

1432
00:55:04,020 --> 00:55:01,570
courts but the other parties involved is

1433
00:55:07,650 --> 00:55:04,030
as well as other government officials in

1434
00:55:10,350 --> 00:55:07,660
a federal action under article 3 an

1435
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:10,360
article 3 is there's a diversity of

1436
00:55:14,250 --> 00:55:12,610
citizenship so my citizenship is

1437
00:55:17,220 --> 00:55:14,260
different than the citizenship of these

1438
00:55:19,410 --> 00:55:17,230
courts the Superior Court and so the

1439
00:55:21,810 --> 00:55:19,420
proper jurisdiction when that when that

1440
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:21,820
event occurs would be at the federal

1441
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:25,450
level and so my my documents that I

1442
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:28,570
submit and my defense in the case is all

1443
00:55:33,690 --> 00:55:30,850
geared towards just exposing that

1444
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:33,700
difference between citizenship that

1445
00:55:39,030 --> 00:55:35,910
there's a diversity there and then also

1446
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:39,040
dealing with any of the documents that

1447
00:55:43,170 --> 00:55:41,290
they may be able to produce that would

1448
00:55:45,720 --> 00:55:43,180
show I willingly consent to their

1449
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:45,730
jurisdiction and so that would be being

1450
00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:47,650
able to show that the signature that I

1451
00:55:51,810 --> 00:55:49,750
had previously placed on a driver's

1452
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:51,820
license application is no longer valid

1453
00:55:57,290 --> 00:55:54,160
because I've taken the steps to rescind

1454
00:55:59,580 --> 00:55:57,300
that signature so all of the obligations

1455
00:56:01,860 --> 00:55:59,590
associated with the driver's license

1456
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:01,870
don't apply because they don't have my

1457
00:56:07,260 --> 00:56:04,930
consent for it that that's the some of

1458
00:56:09,450 --> 00:56:07,270
the information that I try and get on

1459
00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:09,460
the record I I don't expect to win at

1460
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:10,990
the state level I guess I'll put it that

1461
00:56:15,660 --> 00:56:13,090
way that I don't expect there to ever be

1462
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:15,670
a win either the case will be dismissed

1463
00:56:20,550 --> 00:56:18,610
before it ever goes to trial or if it

1464
00:56:22,890 --> 00:56:20,560
goes to trial it'll require me to go to

1465
00:56:26,460 --> 00:56:22,900
federal court and file for perhaps

1466
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:26,470
injunctive relief of some sort now and

1467
00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:28,750
having gone to federal court you know at

1468
00:56:32,460 --> 00:56:30,190
least here in Los Angeles on Spring

1469
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:32,470
Street when you walk in there's a big

1470
00:56:38,610 --> 00:56:35,680
sign that says I D you know positive

1471
00:56:40,620 --> 00:56:38,620
photo ID is required to get through the

1472
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:40,630
the security checkpoint

1473
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:43,450
and when I I was in federal court

1474
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:46,150
they're just doing some research about

1475
00:56:49,290 --> 00:56:47,110
three weeks ago

1476
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:49,300
and all I had brought with me was my

1477
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:50,950
common-law ID to get through the

1478
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:52,810
checkpoint I hand it to him and it was a

1479
00:56:57,300 --> 00:56:55,690
female marshal and she said she had

1480
00:56:59,850 --> 00:56:57,310
never seen that before and showed it to

1481
00:57:01,860 --> 00:56:59,860
her supervisor the supervisor responded

1482
00:57:02,910 --> 00:57:01,870
by saying that's a valid state ID and I

1483
00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:02,920
went right through the checkpoint

1484
00:57:07,350 --> 00:57:05,560
without any delay at all maybe the whole

1485
00:57:10,890 --> 00:57:07,360
delay was 40 seconds tops

1486
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:10,900
but they were very very polite and and

1487
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:12,730
treated me no different than somebody

1488
00:57:16,650 --> 00:57:14,650
you know who's showing a

1489
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:16,660
government-issued ID as far as granting

1490
00:57:20,910 --> 00:57:19,090
access to the courts now I would say

1491
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:20,920
that's because at the federal level to

1492
00:57:26,130 --> 00:57:24,250
the courts they presume and and this is

1493
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:26,140
in you know court cases where they

1494
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:28,930
presume that the original states the

1495
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:31,630
several states exist and it's presumed

1496
00:57:35,850 --> 00:57:33,310
that those states have citizens of their

1497
00:57:37,830 --> 00:57:35,860
own and that's plainly stated again in

1498
00:57:40,050 --> 00:57:37,840
Texas v white I think one of the most

1499
00:57:43,770 --> 00:57:40,060
interesting cases anybody could read is

1500
00:57:46,530 --> 00:57:43,780
the history around Texas v white because

1501
00:57:48,420 --> 00:57:46,540
it does show that that case happened in

1502
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:48,430
the time period when Texas was going

1503
00:57:54,780 --> 00:57:51,310
from the original republic that entered

1504
00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:54,790
the Union to being a administrative

1505
00:57:59,790 --> 00:57:56,950
leakin trolled government under military

1506
00:58:03,030 --> 00:57:59,800
rule and the difference between the two

1507
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:03,040
is plainly stated by the judiciary that

1508
00:58:09,630 --> 00:58:06,570
the the the original government is

1509
00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:09,640
guaranteed to exist forever and that

1510
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:12,340
it's presumed forever to have citizens

1511
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:15,970
of its own and when the person when mr.

1512
00:58:19,950 --> 00:58:18,310
white had taken this case to court there

1513
00:58:21,420 --> 00:58:19,960
wasn't the mechanisms yet that the

1514
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:21,430
federal government had created that we

1515
00:58:24,740 --> 00:58:23,050
have today there wasn't the IRS there

1516
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:24,750
wasn't driver's licenses

1517
00:58:28,370 --> 00:58:26,130
there wasn't all these other mechanisms

1518
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:28,380
that could bind you to 14th amendment

1519
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:30,930
citizenship so the presumption was and

1520
00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:32,940
and it it was correct

1521
00:58:38,210 --> 00:58:35,460
is that his citizenship was sourced

1522
00:58:40,910 --> 00:58:38,220
under article 4 of the Constitution and

1523
00:58:42,860 --> 00:58:40,920
he prevailed and it was over a monetary

1524
00:58:46,580 --> 00:58:42,870
you know as a monetary battle but it's

1525
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:46,590
still a very fascinating case and so

1526
00:58:52,310 --> 00:58:49,110
when you get to the federal level at

1527
00:58:54,290 --> 00:58:52,320
least in theory the federal courts would

1528
00:58:56,060 --> 00:58:54,300
presume that it's completely normal for

1529
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:56,070
somebody who's identifying themselves as

1530
00:59:00,590 --> 00:58:58,170
an article 4 citizen to come to their

1531
00:59:02,930 --> 00:59:00,600
court to deal with an administrative

1532
00:59:06,220 --> 00:59:02,940
agency that is sourced out of Washington

1533
00:59:10,970 --> 00:59:06,230
DC operating within their the the

1534
00:59:12,740 --> 00:59:10,980
defined territory of their state hmm and

1535
00:59:14,570 --> 00:59:12,750
Greg we're not claiming that we're a

1536
00:59:16,940 --> 00:59:14,580
hundred percent you know knowledgeable

1537
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,950
and everything we are asserting is is

1538
00:59:21,140 --> 00:59:19,440
act I mean where I'm going with this is

1539
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:21,150
a lot of people were like Lindley have a

1540
00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:22,770
system that's perfect we're not grinding

1541
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:24,630
that this is what you have to do we're

1542
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:27,450
just claiming do something yeah it's

1543
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,830
different than what you're doing now

1544
00:59:32,690 --> 00:59:30,720
because I know people who have wasted a

1545
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:32,700
waste is not as to strongboard have

1546
00:59:37,010 --> 00:59:35,490
invested dozens and dozens of years of

1547
00:59:39,350 --> 00:59:37,020
their lives and their their family

1548
00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:39,360
treasure to trying to fight this battle

1549
00:59:43,010 --> 00:59:41,190
at up at the federal level to the

1550
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:43,020
highest level just beneath the Supreme

1551
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:45,930
Court and been told time and again no

1552
00:59:51,290 --> 00:59:48,480
standing because they continue to apply

1553
00:59:53,630 --> 00:59:51,300
themselves as this ends legit entities

1554
00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:53,640
this creature of law called a birth

1555
00:59:57,530 --> 00:59:55,500
certificate and it they just we're

1556
00:59:59,960 --> 00:59:57,540
allowed to have this facsimile that we

1557
01:00:02,480 --> 00:59:59,970
have rights that are protected like the

1558
01:00:03,980 --> 01:00:02,490
First Amendment but then why if the

1559
01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:03,990
First Amendment so protected how do you

1560
01:00:09,020 --> 01:00:05,400
have free speech zones on college

1561
01:00:10,820 --> 01:00:09,030
campuses because there's discretion

1562
01:00:12,590 --> 01:00:10,830
because you're a federal citizen and in

1563
01:00:13,610 --> 01:00:12,600
a federal citizenry we get to have

1564
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:13,620
discretion sorry

1565
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:16,530
yeah well said and I mean it makes sense

1566
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:18,930
you're you're testing the system and I

1567
01:00:24,290 --> 01:00:21,090
think that's a noble cause and it's

1568
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:24,300
obviously tough because nobody is is

1569
01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:26,310
giving you the tools to succeed you have

1570
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:28,920
to try different mechanisms and see what

1571
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:30,930
works and the feds have a lot of

1572
01:00:36,410 --> 01:00:33,930
different tricks and illusions to kind

1573
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:36,420
of keep you down we're hopeful there's

1574
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:37,890
there's white hats out there Greg that

1575
01:00:40,460 --> 01:00:38,490
are

1576
01:00:47,350 --> 01:00:40,470
get this and know it and we think one of

1577
01:00:50,030 --> 01:00:47,360
them might be Justice Thomas yeah and

1578
01:00:52,670 --> 01:00:50,040
and because he wrote in that and that

1579
01:00:54,350 --> 01:00:52,680
Prince case the the sheriff this it was

1580
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:54,360
about the Brady Bill was about enforcing

1581
01:00:58,910 --> 01:00:56,970
gun control at the local level and it

1582
01:01:00,830 --> 01:00:58,920
got and and the the sheriff's prevailed

1583
01:01:02,450 --> 01:01:00,840
it was but it was considered a tenth

1584
01:01:03,620 --> 01:01:02,460
Amendment prevail man it wasn't anything

1585
01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:03,630
to do with diversity of citizenship is

1586
01:01:07,490 --> 01:01:05,640
just about Tenth Amendment and he any

1587
01:01:09,050 --> 01:01:07,500
wrote that the the second amendment

1588
01:01:11,450 --> 01:01:09,060
appears to contain an express limitation

1589
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:11,460
the government's authority the court has

1590
01:01:14,660 --> 01:01:13,290
not had recent occasion to consider the

1591
01:01:16,220 --> 01:01:14,670
nature of the substantive right

1592
01:01:18,350 --> 01:01:16,230
safeguarded by the Second Amendment

1593
01:01:19,730 --> 01:01:18,360
however if if the Second Amendment is

1594
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:19,740
read to confer a personal right to keep

1595
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:20,970
them bear arms a colorable argument

1596
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:22,710
exists at the federal government's

1597
01:01:27,109 --> 01:01:24,690
regulatory scheme at least as it

1598
01:01:29,330 --> 01:01:27,119
pertains to the purely intrastate sale

1599
01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:29,340
or possession of firearms runs afoul of

1600
01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:31,950
that Amendment's protections as the

1601
01:01:35,630 --> 01:01:33,270
parties did not raise this argument

1602
01:01:38,180 --> 01:01:35,640
however we need not consider it here

1603
01:01:40,550 --> 01:01:38,190
perhaps at some future date the court

1604
01:01:42,290 --> 01:01:40,560
will have the opportunity to and that's

1605
01:01:44,630 --> 01:01:42,300
where we're that would be kind of the

1606
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:44,640
long ball play if you will is to have

1607
01:01:48,859 --> 01:01:46,680
somebody with standing to answer that

1608
01:01:51,020 --> 01:01:48,869
call that we think he put out there all

1609
01:01:52,790 --> 01:01:51,030
right on and uh this is another thing

1610
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,800
that was touched on a bit earlier but

1611
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:55,440
can one of you guys talk to us about the

1612
01:01:59,900 --> 01:01:57,810
legal name and its importance as to how

1613
01:02:02,780 --> 01:01:59,910
its formatted what is so important about

1614
01:02:05,780 --> 01:02:02,790
going by first middle last name as

1615
01:02:09,650 --> 01:02:05,790
opposed to the terms given name and

1616
01:02:12,710 --> 01:02:09,660
surname well I you know they it's the

1617
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:12,720
title so the way the I interpret the

1618
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:15,050
Constitution is having been put together

1619
01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:19,530
to use a military example the title of

1620
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:21,390
given name and surname or given name and

1621
01:02:26,060 --> 01:02:23,310
family name would be akin to being

1622
01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:26,070
general whereas the title first middle

1623
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:28,680
last name would be again akin to being

1624
01:02:33,770 --> 01:02:30,450
you know a conscripted private

1625
01:02:35,270 --> 01:02:33,780
cannon-fodder and you know when it comes

1626
01:02:37,670 --> 01:02:35,280
to dealing with government I want them

1627
01:02:40,010 --> 01:02:37,680
to view me as the highest political

1628
01:02:45,050 --> 01:02:40,020
standing possible not something that's

1629
01:02:48,890 --> 01:02:45,060
just their property to be fleeced and if

1630
01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:48,900
you're invoking or responding to what

1631
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:51,240
you know I think is really just a slave

1632
01:02:54,990 --> 01:02:52,330
name

1633
01:02:57,030 --> 01:02:55,000
by using those titles first middle last

1634
01:02:59,460 --> 01:02:57,040
name and saying yeah that's me

1635
01:03:01,740 --> 01:02:59,470
you're literally identifying yourself as

1636
01:03:03,870 --> 01:03:01,750
government property because the

1637
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:03,880
government owns the property that you're

1638
01:03:09,690 --> 01:03:07,090
using to say yeah that's me mm-hmm kind

1639
01:03:11,610 --> 01:03:09,700
of another trick with the homophone then

1640
01:03:13,980 --> 01:03:11,620
right you terms that sound exactly the

1641
01:03:17,970 --> 01:03:13,990
same absolutely and it's ingrained in us

1642
01:03:20,970 --> 01:03:17,980
from you know from birth you know I know

1643
01:03:23,580 --> 01:03:20,980
in when I first started to understand

1644
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:23,590
this trying to separate the two in my

1645
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:25,570
head and be able to get clarity on this

1646
01:03:30,030 --> 01:03:27,730
was very difficult and I later learned

1647
01:03:33,210 --> 01:03:30,040
that the reason why it's so difficult in

1648
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:33,220
the beginning is the literally the

1649
01:03:38,010 --> 01:03:34,930
connections in your brain to recognize

1650
01:03:40,890 --> 01:03:38,020
how important it is or to recognize the

1651
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:40,900
difference you're not used to being

1652
01:03:44,970 --> 01:03:43,210
addressed by your given and surname yet

1653
01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:44,980
if you have a passport open it up and

1654
01:03:49,950 --> 01:03:47,470
look at it you're on the passport it

1655
01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:49,960
says bearer as far as where your

1656
01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:52,180
signature goes it doesn't say applicant

1657
01:03:57,210 --> 01:03:54,430
or owner or anything else it just says

1658
01:03:59,370 --> 01:03:57,220
bearer and then lists your name given

1659
01:04:02,610 --> 01:03:59,380
and surname now there's a reason why

1660
01:04:04,530 --> 01:04:02,620
it's done that way because if they were

1661
01:04:06,780 --> 01:04:04,540
to if you were to be identified as a

1662
01:04:09,930 --> 01:04:06,790
state-issued birth record outside of the

1663
01:04:13,590 --> 01:04:09,940
country then you wouldn't be recognized

1664
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:13,600
as a citizen and that that's part goes

1665
01:04:20,990 --> 01:04:15,720
into all the different treaties that

1666
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:21,000
surround passports and so forth but the

1667
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:24,370
the training from day one in school

1668
01:04:28,410 --> 01:04:26,290
you're taught first metal last name date

1669
01:04:30,180 --> 01:04:28,420
of birth when you get pulled over or if

1670
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:30,190
a cop you know approaches you and says

1671
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:31,570
you know what's your first name what's

1672
01:04:35,340 --> 01:04:32,710
your last name what's your date of birth

1673
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:35,350
all of these things are just ingrained

1674
01:04:40,530 --> 01:04:38,310
in us from such a young age that it is a

1675
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:40,540
personal challenge for each and every

1676
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:43,330
one of us who wants to a ver article for

1677
01:04:51,030 --> 01:04:47,200
citizenship to be able to not submit to

1678
01:04:53,330 --> 01:04:51,040
that type of title and it's a title that

1679
01:04:56,490 --> 01:04:53,340
the government wishes to impose on you

1680
01:04:58,440 --> 01:04:56,500
and you notice it when you no longer

1681
01:05:01,140 --> 01:04:58,450
want to accept that title I mean I've

1682
01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:01,150
had the in fact when I was put in

1683
01:05:05,970 --> 01:05:03,550
handcuffs at the beach in San Clemente

1684
01:05:08,550 --> 01:05:05,980
it was simply because

1685
01:05:10,650 --> 01:05:08,560
the officer wanted me to say first

1686
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:10,660
middle last name and I kept responding

1687
01:05:14,550 --> 01:05:12,310
saying I don't have a first name I've

1688
01:05:16,290 --> 01:05:14,560
got a given and surname and if it's not

1689
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:16,300
a big deal then why would they need to

1690
01:05:18,930 --> 01:05:17,410
handcuff you over it

1691
01:05:20,670 --> 01:05:18,940
you know if they could just scratch out

1692
01:05:22,349 --> 01:05:20,680
on a ticket all right well doesn't

1693
01:05:24,150 --> 01:05:22,359
matter what you title is on your name

1694
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:24,160
will scratch out this thing that says

1695
01:05:29,130 --> 01:05:27,010
first name and we will put a given name

1696
01:05:31,710 --> 01:05:29,140
here and that should make you happy well

1697
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:31,720
they can't because it would be similar

1698
01:05:36,810 --> 01:05:34,540
to scratching out conscripted private

1699
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:36,820
cannon fodder title and then replacing

1700
01:05:41,849 --> 01:05:39,690
that with general and that's just not

1701
01:05:43,589 --> 01:05:41,859
something that's going to fly so it's

1702
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:43,599
the same thing and in my you know I've

1703
01:05:48,270 --> 01:05:45,130
got a court case going on right now

1704
01:05:50,069 --> 01:05:48,280
where I'm requesting the court grant a

1705
01:05:53,099 --> 01:05:50,079
motion to compel the state to produce

1706
01:05:55,170 --> 01:05:53,109
evidence and some of that evidence is

1707
01:05:57,630 --> 01:05:55,180
geared towards showing the difference

1708
01:05:59,460 --> 01:05:57,640
between the political status of an

1709
01:06:03,060 --> 01:05:59,470
article for citizen using a given and

1710
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:03,070
surname versus a 14th amendment citizen

1711
01:06:07,380 --> 01:06:04,750
using first middle last name

1712
01:06:10,380 --> 01:06:07,390
construction and in the you know when an

1713
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:10,390
officer gives a ticket the rules that

1714
01:06:15,780 --> 01:06:12,130
are established by the California

1715
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:15,790
Judicial Council requires that it shall

1716
01:06:21,089 --> 01:06:18,490
be in the specific sequence of first

1717
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:21,099
middle last so to them it's incredibly

1718
01:06:27,210 --> 01:06:23,710
important and you know there's nothing

1719
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:27,220
that I find beneficial to granting them

1720
01:06:31,829 --> 01:06:29,770
that so I deny them in my personal life

1721
01:06:35,490 --> 01:06:31,839
the ability to address me first middle

1722
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:35,500
last name whenever possible right I mean

1723
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:37,930
that makes a lot of sense I do respect

1724
01:06:42,599 --> 01:06:39,849
you guys a lot for putting yourself out

1725
01:06:45,089 --> 01:06:42,609
there and you have been talking the talk

1726
01:06:45,750 --> 01:06:45,099
and walking the walk for a long time on

1727
01:06:47,730 --> 01:06:45,760
this subject

1728
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:47,740
educating listeners along the way have

1729
01:06:52,109 --> 01:06:50,170
you had any personal victories from your

1730
01:06:54,750 --> 01:06:52,119
listeners over the years that are worth

1731
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:54,760
sharing well there's there's lots of

1732
01:07:00,450 --> 01:06:57,760
small victories the big victory that I

1733
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:00,460
think we're looking for is a court case

1734
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:04,000
that you know in modern times in in our

1735
01:07:08,790 --> 01:07:06,400
era says that the federal government has

1736
01:07:10,170 --> 01:07:08,800
an obligation to guarantee a Republican

1737
01:07:12,839 --> 01:07:10,180
form of government to the States

1738
01:07:15,300 --> 01:07:12,849
and so far nobody has brought that issue

1739
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:15,310
or has successfully brought that issue

1740
01:07:19,170 --> 01:07:17,650
in a federal court case there's been

1741
01:07:21,870 --> 01:07:19,180
lots of people who have attempt

1742
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:21,880
to argue a similar thing but when you

1743
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:23,530
really break down what they're arguing

1744
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:26,710
they're arguing that the state that we

1745
01:07:31,290 --> 01:07:28,569
see today these administrative states

1746
01:07:32,910 --> 01:07:31,300
that are running are separate when in

1747
01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:32,920
fact they're not they're missing the

1748
01:07:39,329 --> 01:07:36,910
article four argument so the the big win

1749
01:07:41,490 --> 01:07:39,339
that once that win happens then it's

1750
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:41,500
going to become incredibly easy for

1751
01:07:46,740 --> 01:07:44,050
anybody to a ver article for citizenship

1752
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:46,750
but until that happens there are a whole

1753
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:48,490
bunch of little wins I've got a friend

1754
01:07:51,750 --> 01:07:49,690
here who actually lives in North

1755
01:07:53,970 --> 01:07:51,760
Hollywood he's been traveling now for a

1756
01:07:56,970 --> 01:07:53,980
long time with no plates no driver's

1757
01:07:59,059 --> 01:07:56,980
license and he was pulled over about two

1758
01:08:02,250 --> 01:07:59,069
months ago from the Highway Patrol and

1759
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:02,260
they let him go so in a case like that

1760
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:04,210
there's there's nothing to prove that it

1761
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:06,700
was a win other than they asked him

1762
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:09,280
questions and it was probably officers

1763
01:08:12,210 --> 01:08:10,510
since it was in the areas probably

1764
01:08:14,490 --> 01:08:12,220
officers from the West Valley Division

1765
01:08:17,729 --> 01:08:14,500
they might be familiar with the contact

1766
01:08:20,010 --> 01:08:17,739
that that I have but either way he kept

1767
01:08:22,559 --> 01:08:20,020
his property and continues to keep his

1768
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:22,569
property and continues to function as an

1769
01:08:26,849 --> 01:08:24,880
article for citizen without having gone

1770
01:08:29,220 --> 01:08:26,859
to court so his contact with the

1771
01:08:31,260 --> 01:08:29,230
officers was you know textbook example

1772
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:31,270
like like I say if I get pulled over I

1773
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:34,000
roll down all my windows I pay rapt

1774
01:08:39,780 --> 01:08:35,650
attention to the directions that the

1775
01:08:41,789 --> 01:08:39,790
officer is giving I turn on you know mr.

1776
01:08:44,039 --> 01:08:41,799
polite as much as possible while

1777
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:44,049
maintaining my my status and then

1778
01:08:47,550 --> 01:08:45,850
mentally prepare that if the officer is

1779
01:08:49,650 --> 01:08:47,560
going to take me to jail that's an

1780
01:08:52,289 --> 01:08:49,660
absolute possibility but I engage with

1781
01:08:55,050 --> 01:08:52,299
the officer in such a way that I want to

1782
01:08:57,090 --> 01:08:55,060
encourage them or I want to win their

1783
01:08:59,999 --> 01:08:57,100
hearts and minds so that they hope that

1784
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:00,009
I win because if if I even though it's a

1785
01:09:13,769 --> 01:09:11,770
direct existe month at doesn't have such

1786
01:09:17,490 --> 01:09:13,779
centralized control that we have today

1787
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:17,500
and so you know I mean I've had officers

1788
01:09:22,890 --> 01:09:20,290
especially in Orange County Sheriff I've

1789
01:09:25,860 --> 01:09:22,900
had those officers be very kind to me

1790
01:09:27,450 --> 01:09:25,870
and nice to me in fact one time when I

1791
01:09:30,599 --> 01:09:27,460
was at the clerk's window at the Orange

1792
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:30,609
County Superior Court I was looking to

1793
01:09:34,930 --> 01:09:32,809
access public information

1794
01:09:36,910 --> 01:09:34,940
and I forget if they at wanted me to

1795
01:09:39,099 --> 01:09:36,920
show ID or something like that but

1796
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:39,109
basically through an intimidation tactic

1797
01:09:42,490 --> 01:09:40,369
they hit the panic button and they've

1798
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:42,500
done this to me a few times when they

1799
01:09:45,819 --> 01:09:44,329
hit the panic button that means there's

1800
01:09:47,620 --> 01:09:45,829
gonna be sheriff's deputies that come

1801
01:09:49,779 --> 01:09:47,630
running with guns they're expecting an

1802
01:09:52,419 --> 01:09:49,789
emergency when really the court clerk is

1803
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:52,429
just using that to intimidate and so I

1804
01:09:56,290 --> 01:09:53,690
just stay calm

1805
01:09:59,080 --> 01:09:56,300
maintain my position and those officers

1806
01:10:01,600 --> 01:09:59,090
showed up they appropriately addressed

1807
01:10:04,899 --> 01:10:01,610
the situation and within a minute or two

1808
01:10:07,569 --> 01:10:04,909
they left and they didn't infringe or

1809
01:10:09,580 --> 01:10:07,579
anything upon how I was engaged with the

1810
01:10:11,410 --> 01:10:09,590
government even though the the court

1811
01:10:13,060 --> 01:10:11,420
clerk really did not like at all what I

1812
01:10:14,410 --> 01:10:13,070
was saying or how I was going about

1813
01:10:16,959 --> 01:10:14,420
asserting my authority

1814
01:10:19,060 --> 01:10:16,969
the sheriff's recognized there was no

1815
01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:19,070
breach of the peace and let me go I have

1816
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:21,409
been placed in handcuffs before I've had

1817
01:10:26,529 --> 01:10:23,570
you know numerous contacts with police

1818
01:10:28,810 --> 01:10:26,539
but for the most part I really can't

1819
01:10:31,029 --> 01:10:28,820
complain about the physical treatment

1820
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:31,039
that I've received but I credit that to

1821
01:10:35,979 --> 01:10:33,770
paying just rapt attention to playing my

1822
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:35,989
part and that is making sure that they

1823
01:10:41,410 --> 01:10:38,449
don't ever have use of violence being

1824
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,420
approved by policy mm-hmm Greg we do

1825
01:10:44,859 --> 01:10:43,280
share stories on our show with people

1826
01:10:47,169 --> 01:10:44,869
that are retweeting or emailing or

1827
01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:47,179
chatting us in our chat room about what

1828
01:10:49,450 --> 01:10:48,320
they've done there's a lot of Public

1829
01:10:52,060 --> 01:10:49,460
Records Act requests there's people

1830
01:10:54,490 --> 01:10:52,070
engaging their state senators asking

1831
01:10:57,339 --> 01:10:54,500
about state citizenship Corey got a note

1832
01:10:59,379 --> 01:10:57,349
from a guy that said he was on a tram or

1833
01:11:00,850 --> 01:10:59,389
a subway with a cop inserted I asked him

1834
01:11:02,319 --> 01:11:00,860
about his oath of office and he got

1835
01:11:03,819 --> 01:11:02,329
right off at the next stop and you know

1836
01:11:06,129 --> 01:11:03,829
fled you know didn't want to hear about

1837
01:11:08,049 --> 01:11:06,139
it anymore it's it's a consciousness

1838
01:11:09,399 --> 01:11:08,059
that's happening it's not huge by any

1839
01:11:11,919 --> 01:11:09,409
stretch because everybody's so

1840
01:11:13,779 --> 01:11:11,929
distracted with Hillary and Bernie you

1841
01:11:16,419 --> 01:11:13,789
know and the Trump isms and all that

1842
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:16,429
stuff but the other thing that I would

1843
01:11:19,990 --> 01:11:19,610
say about you know if you've ever heard

1844
01:11:23,529 --> 01:11:20,000
the term

1845
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:23,539
tar baby yes yeah so if you know the

1846
01:11:29,649 --> 01:11:26,210
talk if they take Cory if they take Cory

1847
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:29,659
in and arrest him it's it's a it's a tar

1848
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:31,730
baby they took his car away it is now a

1849
01:11:36,549 --> 01:11:34,250
tar baby because of them taking his car

1850
01:11:38,529 --> 01:11:36,559
away on the side of the road there is a

1851
01:11:39,939 --> 01:11:38,539
situation now that is uncovered that the

1852
01:11:41,740 --> 01:11:39,949
Secretary of State has sent a letter

1853
01:11:43,299 --> 01:11:41,750
that says they have no oaths of office

1854
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:43,309
on file for any California Highway

1855
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:45,710
Patrol officers there's 10,000 officers

1856
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:46,610
in the state

1857
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:47,930
they're the secret service of the

1858
01:11:51,430 --> 01:11:49,370
governor and they don't have any oaths

1859
01:11:53,980 --> 01:11:51,440
of office we have it in writing from the

1860
01:11:56,590 --> 01:11:53,990
Secretary of State this it just opens up

1861
01:11:58,660 --> 01:11:56,600
all these other doors so it's Tower baby

1862
01:12:00,580 --> 01:11:58,670
time if you if you get arrested if you

1863
01:12:02,350 --> 01:12:00,590
know what you're doing and you've heard

1864
01:12:03,730 --> 01:12:02,360
yourself properly and you do have to

1865
01:12:05,110 --> 01:12:03,740
have this isn't for everybody

1866
01:12:07,270 --> 01:12:05,120
it just isn't we know that we're not

1867
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:07,280
expecting B but we're hopeful that you

1868
01:12:10,750 --> 01:12:09,170
know the there's books written about the

1869
01:12:13,180 --> 01:12:10,760
three percenters we've ever heard of

1870
01:12:15,940 --> 01:12:13,190
that term mm-hmm yeah with three percent

1871
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:15,950
of a populous with civil disobedience or

1872
01:12:19,450 --> 01:12:17,690
asserting themselves you can move a

1873
01:12:22,150 --> 01:12:19,460
society so you know that's you know

1874
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:22,160
we're at 3.1 percent with agenda 31

1875
01:12:26,110 --> 01:12:23,840
we're hopeful that you can get that kind

1876
01:12:28,450 --> 01:12:26,120
of thing going yeah well a great advice

1877
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:28,460
well said and you know from my

1878
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:29,810
perspective if you haven't been in

1879
01:12:32,650 --> 01:12:31,370
handcuffs at least once and you're not

1880
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:32,660
living you know you're way too

1881
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:37,130
complacent but guys thanks for sticking

1882
01:12:40,450 --> 01:12:38,450
around I know we went a little bit long

1883
01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:40,460
this is super interesting I appreciate

1884
01:12:43,990 --> 01:12:42,710
what you do very informative and you

1885
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:44,000
guys are fighting the good fight for

1886
01:12:47,770 --> 01:12:46,130
people who aren't even aware and in some

1887
01:12:50,350 --> 01:12:47,780
cases don't appreciate it so let me

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thank you on their behalf and mine I'm

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really glad we were able to do this

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before we go please remind the people

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where to dig a little deeper and to

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catch your show

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yeah agenda 3100 RG is the website we

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typically broadcast our show on

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Saturdays it just varies we do a live

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stream at agenda 31 or G slash stream

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you can if you subscribe at our blog

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it's a wordpress blog you see there's a

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subscription button complimentary

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subscription we'll send out a notice

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about an hour two hours before we go

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live if you want to check it out live

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otherwise you can you could get it on

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all the RSS feeds like iTunes and others

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to subscribe we're also played back on

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the no agenda stream at No Agenda Stream

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comm on Thursdays and Sundays after the

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no agendas Show with Adam Korean

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Chauncey Dvorak which is a show I think

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which is a stream I think Greg your show

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should be on as well hahaha yeah we can

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definitely talk about making that happen

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but and I'm Ally do you think just so

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you know if you subscribe to our blog we

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we have one section that is how to make

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a common ID which the price of admission

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is just subscribing to the blog and get

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access to it and you can see Corey's

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comedy my common ID there's a template

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there and some more explanation about it

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nice awesome well Todd Corey

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thanks again keep it up and take care of

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yourselves out there Greg thank you very

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great being excellent talking with you

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yeah you too

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boom there we have it people Todd and

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Corey of agenda 31 at an extra 15

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minutes no less can't complain about

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that big thanks to them for being here

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and big thanks to meme troll on the +

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show forums for the suggestion whenever

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I draw a blank on who to have in the

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show I look at the endless list of

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suggestions on the guest request forum

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and I know I'll never get to a lot of

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them but I thought what Todd and Cory

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are doing was interesting enough to

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dedicate an episode to it and I'm glad

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we did it's a little refreshing to hear

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01:14:44,979 --> 01:14:43,010
an alternative to the sovereign citizens

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stuff cuz that seems like more trouble

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than it's worth it almost seems like the

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sovereign citizen stuff could be a big

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distraction from what Todd and Cory are

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doing because there's actually an

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underlying basis for the fight they're

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fighting and I feel bad because I think

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I was a little critical at times during

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the episode but I actually think what

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they're doing is really intriguing and I

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like their low-risk high-reward approach

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I think that's the only way to go about

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it in the modern world but why not mess

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with the system why not draw a little

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attention to the underlying framework

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that they'd rather we ignored I realized

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that if everyone just keeps their head

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down and says I don't want any trouble

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that nothing will ever change so I think

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this is an interesting way to engage

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with the system that's a bit more

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measured than other people in this space

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have talked about in the past I don't

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know if I'm gonna do too much of this

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personally but I might I've been

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01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:34,219
thinking about it I mean why the hell

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not but I am gonna keep up with what

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01:15:40,630 --> 01:15:38,420
they're doing and how Corey's saga

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unfolds if you like the first hour

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that's really what we talked about in

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01:15:47,020 --> 01:15:45,710
the + show we got into how Cory and Todd

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01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:47,030
have used these things in their own

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01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:49,280
lives and we got into their backgrounds

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01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:52,190
and stories a bit too in particular we

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talked about the sunflower seed incident

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and they also gave us more details on

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how to make our own citizen 4 IDs if we

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so choose they just seem like cool

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01:16:06,030 --> 01:16:04,429
level-headed like-minded guys and

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01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:06,040
they've definitely done their research

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01:16:11,169 --> 01:16:08,480
legal research - you got to give a guy

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01:16:13,959 --> 01:16:11,179
extra credit for that kind of stuff but

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01:16:16,029 --> 01:16:13,969
that's the show many of you probably

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01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,039
this episode coming in the first THC

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newsletter on the first of the month

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lots of great responses came back to

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that to which I do appreciate sign up at

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just a free little extra thing not a big

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deal but thanks for listening either way

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we have exceeded my wildest dreams I am

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a lucky guy and I hope I can keep

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bringing you great shows with amazing

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guests week after week From Here to

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Eternity and I don't think that's too

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much to ask but it's a long road to

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Eternity and for today I think I've done

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my part

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your move political perpetrators of the

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to the game and saw rapport we twist the

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siRNA kitted up on the pipeline that he

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carries all our pain as we blindly

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clapping cheer from the sidelines from

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the very start and that's where they

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th TV

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smoking my free sing

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TAC me

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small

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hey guys thanks for listening to the

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don't know there is a second hour to all

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the episodes we do around here generally

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we're able to get a lot deeper into the

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wanted to be a paid subscriber podcast

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but I really hate the idea of spending

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completely unrelated and telling you the

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if you like the show double your time

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cut out all the other [\h__\h] it's half the

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with anything but the show you came to

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an independent one-man show to make it

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and I do what I can so that it's worth

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your while since we started this I've

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always tried to use the subscriptions to

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improve the podcast and make signups

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second hour for the main show but now

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we've got a nice forum going where

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people can get deeper in conversation

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the entrepreneurs thread the forum in

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the Plus comments are always the first

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places I try to go for listener

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engagement but it does get harder as the

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show gets more popular because of that

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there's also a direct messaging feature

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that you can use to reach me through the

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plus site also but beyond the forum if

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you like any of the music I've used for

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make and I provided all as free

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downloads to plus members too so if you

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like a particular song you've heard

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close the show out recently come get the

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don't like the idea of paying $5

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buy three months six months or a year

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upfront and just be done with it I have

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plenty of listeners who send checks and

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make it as easy for people as I can and

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great solutions and one of those would

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be the iPhone app that just recently hit

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the Apple App Store a super kind and

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addict and subscribe to the feed

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occasional bonus shows or QA shows and

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I've got a few other weird ideas I might

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get to try out soon but I give you all I

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can for five bucks and I hope you'll at

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least give it a shot if you've listened

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to a few free shows and you find them

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of podcasts out there and I'm just one

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of them but if you have any questions

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get tons and tons of emails after a show

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goes up asking me about how I feel about

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a particular guest or topic and the

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wrap-up isn't always the best place to

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do that

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especially if I have anything negative

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to say sometimes the dust needs to

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settle sometimes they need to hear

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feedback from you guys first there are a

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lot of factors but I usually have

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something to communicate to you and I

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just don't get to do it so on the first

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of the month

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I plan to send out a little newsletter

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the previous month and talk to you about

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anything else that's on my mind or

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that's going on and what's probably most

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enticing is that I'm gonna give you some

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insight into at least one guest I have

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coming up in the month which people have

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01:24:00,740 --> 01:23:58,530
been begging for some posted schedule

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for a long time I personally think I'd

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like the surprise but sign up for the

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won't waste your time with any other

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listening I try to give alternative

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ideas and guess a fair shake on a high

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quality podcast expose some deep level

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conspiracies without the yelling

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and I hope to offer some inspiration

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that even though the system relentlessly

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suggests you should follow their

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blueprint to mediocrity you can do your

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own thing and live a much happier life

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despite all the negativity in the world